The Gyasi Zardes thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Scotty, Sep 11, 2014.

  1. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle
    Dec 12, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't buy the line that he's on there because his off the ball movement and work rate are great, it's not all about touch and control blah blah blah.
    His in game anticipation is so poor. He repeatedly overran defensive positions, following a man instead of pressuring the ball, zigged when his teammate expected a zag. Sargent's one turn and layoff a minute or so after coming on was more than Zardes managed in his entire time on the field. On paper maybe he makes a lot of sense-- good motor, good lungs, works hard-- but in practice, at this level, he's terrible. Even Holden in the in-game broadcast said no one has yet stepped up as the heir apparent to Jozy...and Zardes has 50+ caps! He has already had a great international career and yet here we are still complaining and stretching ourselves to figure out how and why he's on the field. 50 caps later and he still hasn't even declared "I've arrived"
     
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  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I don't think Zardes is great.

    I also think the scapegoating of him has gone waaaaaaaaaaaaay too far.

    Zardes Is who he is and always will be.
    The fact that we have a coach that thinks he's the best option is the problem.

    BY the way, he's probably fine for CONCACAF opposition other than Mexico. We witnessed this with our own eyes at the Gold Cup.
     
  3. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Agreed completely.

    Zardes isn't the problem. The coach that keep starting him is THE problem.

    He's useless, but I do not blame him for our losses.
     
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  4. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The problem is that Zardes isn't the guy you start. He's the guy you bring off the bench in a scrappy round of 16 game who knocks the tying goal in off of 2 deflections and scores a tap-in in extra time.
     
  5. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I don’t think he’s that, either.

    His positives are his runs, pressing and ability to keep running for 90, which we don’t seem to have anywhere.

    Those aren’t enough to play.
     
  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I personally would bring a guy like Morris off the bench over Zardes.

    I mean, Gyasi is fine for the League of Nations and most CONCACAF opposition.
    We all just KNOW he's not good enough for games against the bigger/better opponents. That includes Mexico, who can handle him with ease.

    We must give the next generation like Sargent, Weah, Soto, etc. as many starts in these friendlies as possible. They learn harsh lessons in these games so they can be ready when the games start to actually matter.

    What did we actually learn by playing Zardes against Mexico? Nothing we didn't already know. We can go back to him later if the youngsters don't develop.

    I personally take Altidore in a heartbeat over Zardes, by the way.
     
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  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good post but who in MLS is Barcelona and is made up of a bunch of US eligible players?
     
  8. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    You're giving him too much credit. He is supposed to be a high energy pressing forward or something and he isn't even good at that. Useless on the international level
     
  9. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he has a role as a late game pest that can occasionally score lucky goals but who could harass tired players. Not sure that's a role that's more important than other so I guess it would be a game to game role.
     
  10. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paxton Pomykal wanted to get in on this thread, by dropping the fing hammer:

    “We do have youth, but at the same time we have youth that’s playing at a high level,” Pomykal said. “Josh is getting Bundesliga minutes, as opposed to a 28-year-old who might be playing in a league not on that high of a level. Whether you’re 20 or you’re 28, if you do the job, then you deserve the opportunity,”

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...omykal-hopes-add-usmnt-debut-milestone-season

    That is pretty much it for me in a nutshell, there is zero justification for starting Gyasi over Sargent at this point imo. They are at worst pretty much equal right now and one has big upside and the other is what he is; not good enough.
     
  11. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank god it’s not just us. 3G might be losing the lockeroom. Next shots please be at Trapp and Bradley!
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Forget Sargent, is there any justification for starting Zardes over Mason Toye (6G 3A in ~500 MLS minutes, a couple more goals in USOC, and another yesterday for the U-23s vs Japan) at this point?
     
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