The Goalkeeping Crisis!

If the defence tightens itself up, Mignolet sudenly looks a reasonable option IMO...i just don't see too many top grade keepers that havn't been snapped up already .....
we may end up spending a cartload of cash on someone whois just the same.

 

I'd like to see Ward getting some more opportunities. Migs won't be around long I would imagine. Cash in on him now while he has some value.

 

Rick Parry.

 

I'm still blaming Souness.

 

And here I thought we wouldn't have a crisis today...

 

Being a keeper at one point myself, I find it difficult to "lay blame at the keepers feet"...but Migs does not come close to owning his box - not even the goal box, let alone the penalty box...as was made clear in the FA Cup thread, Foster pulled several crosses down and made it look easy...Migs did not make a save in the game, and looked very uncomfortable with any ball in the air, in or around the six-yard box...they even scored (although it was offside) with a floated ball into the box that he flailed at and missed...

So I agree with Suss, although I think Migs is a decent shot stopper, other teams have figured out that he is uncomfortable with a crossed ball...A more confident keeper would likely make our defense look a lot better.

 

Kinda seemed that way didn’t it?

 

On the other hand, we denizens of this forum do! Just ask us.

 

When you've been treated this way by Klopp, who wouldn't be?

Changing Migs doesn't come close to addressing this "problem", as I've said for a long time now... it runs throughout the squad. It's not about the CBs or FBs or CMs, it's about the mentality of the squad and a collective lack of any defensive awareness when under pressure, not to mention a manager unable to stop the bleeding, through subs or tactical adjustments, when something does go wrong.

This is just going to continue to happen when you field 2 fullbacks that don't seem to have any idea what they're doing positionally and CBs that can't use their ********ing off-foot to clear a ball coming at them bouncing across the penalty box. David De Gea isn't saving these goals, many of which are being struck from the penalty spot or closer.

Although to be fair, DDG definitely does come for these crosses a lot better.

 

Why should Mignolet feel "confident"? He's been benched by Klopp for (and I think this is being kind) an equally-poor option for many of the more important matches of the season.

 

I've been a Migs apologist for a long time but I've had it after Saturday. Go back and watch the goal that Worst Brom scored that didn't count (the first time) and you'll see VvD call for him to collect that ball and then he turns around to see that not only had Migs not got the ball but a Brummie had squeezed in a close range header. He was livid. We all were.

I understand that Karius is garbage too but Migs should take every opportunity to make it clear as day that he's head and shoulders above Karius. He didn't do that on Saturday. I wouldn't blame the goals on him though. Can was poor on the first two and Matip needs to do better on the third.

 

I'm starting to agree with this theory .... He really isn't ever gonna take charge of the area......
I'd prefer to have him doing a bit of Jerzy Dudek shot stopping in th eCL but at this rate I no longer see it as a benefit....

 

that's how i see it too....

 

There's no question he was absolutely horrible Saturday. He's been broken, he's a different player to the one that was playing well last Spring.

Agreed 100%.

 

Sure, we can't rule anything out.

However, the evidence in how he's been treated (IMO) points to one thing more than another. Plus we have past evidence of him getting shook by competition at the position (before eventually righting the ship for himself). And we've seen more than once him have a "purple patch".

Either way we know from the past we have a limited keeper that is too timid in a lot of ways but can be a good shot stopper for stretches at a time. So what should have been the plan in the long term? Get a much better keeper, obviously. But in the short term? Well, Klopp chose to cut his legs from under him instead of seeing what he could do as the number one going forward based on the fact that he got LFC top 4. So instead of having 2 mediocre keepers with at least one feeling confident, we have the same 2 mediocre keepers and they both look like shit and none of them feels like the number 1.

Great plan.

I suppose Klopp would say he expected Karius to emerge as the clear number 1. However if that's happened, it's really only due to Mignolet's collapse and is not a credit to Karius in any way who has also been quite poor. So I'd say this gambit failed outright.

So what's the third option? Is there a third option? Spend funny money on Alisson, I guess? 44M pounds for a keeper.

 

Yep - it's quite a mess...and blame goes all the way around...Karius didn't "step up" when given the opportunity...nor did Migs...and Klopp's "rotation" has fallen flat...

Ahhh...so what do they do now?

Score more than the other team!

 

Good points...we spend funny $$$ everywhere else, why not keeper?

 

But, but, but... we've let Coutinho and Sturridge go this window with no replacements. I guess the plan is for Solanke and Ings to become world class for the rest of the season.