The Fire Jim Curtin Thread [MERGED]

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Handsome Pete, Jun 10, 2014.

  1. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, technically he's out of contract.

    * insert Office Space "we fixed the glitch" .gif here *
     
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  2. breslinp

    breslinp Member+

    Jan 20, 2010
    Malvern, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So your telling me there's another world wide search going on right now!?!?

    spoiler: Pat Noonan gets the job.
     
  3. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Unfortunately, we don't get to VOTE for the manager. McKenzie didn't win the VOTE for rookie of the year. There is still time to VOTE for goal of the year.

    *sorry mods, my keyboard seems to have issues with fonts today.
     
  4. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
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    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    #2529 celt1997, Nov 13, 2018
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  5. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He'll get an extension.
     
  6. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I keep hearing that Jimbo is a player's coach and how much they love him...yet he got the lowest percentage of the player votes of the 4 on that list.
     
  7. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It technically wouldn't be a firing..........it would just be letting Curtin's current contract run out.
     
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  8. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Players love playing against his team
     
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  9. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Extra Time radio responded to one of my rambling twitter rants... so I got that going for me.
     
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  10. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Andy Warhol approves.

    23 teams in the league. 1 of which is the Union.

    1 divided by 23 equals 0.0435, or 4.35%.
    Jim received 3.81% of the player votes, which is less than 4.35%.

    Does that mean that not every Union player voted for him? :eek:
     
  11. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I did that math too and have the notion that the coaches on the rest of the list may all have ~3% which is just most players voting for their own manager. I guess Curtin stumbled in on the strength of the club vote whatever that is. Would be nice if they shared the whole list.
     
  12. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What player from another team is going to vote for Jim Curtin as the best manager???
     
  13. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Maybe Pontius votes for him as a thank you for letting his contract expire.
     
  14. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I wonder if the pool goalkeepers get to vote?
     
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  15. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Playing a Jim Curtin team was a guaranteed 3 points for most of the spring and the last month of season, and you didn't have to spend too much brain power figuring out what his strategy would be.
     
  16. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I guess from that perspective, teams don’t spend as much time on film prework and get to knock off early so he’d be popular with those EC multiple game teams.
     
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  17. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't Curtin's contract until the end of the MLS season though? So technically his contract doesn't expire until AFTER MLS Cup......
     
  19. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Link says 'club technical staff'. How he did well among that group is a head-scratcher to me.
     
  20. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that a lot of people in the league give Curtin credit for leading a team that was below average on paper to a 19-16-5 overall record.

    An increasingly popular stat in sports is WAR (Wins Above Replacement). If you assume that this was a below-average team (and I believe that it was), then Curtin had a high WAR this season.

    Stated differently, what should have been this team's record this season in the 40 games that it played?
     
  21. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I'm going to go ahead and disagree. "A lot of people", here anyway, were saying this looks like a team challenging for the last playoff spot. We finished in the last playoff spot. So we were exactly who we thought we were. If the U had won out and grabbed 3rd, that feels different. That would be WAR. Would any other manager had his team ready for the USOC final (pick whichever one you want) and they would have had their first trophy? Could any other manager had this "greatest Union team of all time" ready for the NYC playoff game? I mean, whether you think he's good or not, he absolutely was a failure when it was crunch time. Season on the line and his team came out scared and flat. Trophy on the line and they got abused by a mediocre Houston team. This is a guy with a trophy available subbed OUT his franchise keeper so the PK "specialist" could come in instead of any other player during extra time. There's no point laying out these wishy washy arguments that only James T Curtin could have got these amazing results from this motley band of soccerballers.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/2017-18-offseason-player-movement-rumors.2076768/page-36
     
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  22. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/20...movement-rumors.2076768/page-36#post-36364843

    not a bad prediction/rant.
     
  23. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
  24. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Today is the day that will cause this thread to live forever....
     
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  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m off today... will be watching closely... better be a hell of a convincing sales pitch.
     
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