The best players in the world 2018

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  1. comme

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    Feb 21, 2003
    It's that time of the year again when various publications start to put out their lists of the best players in the world. I'll use this thread to capture as many as I can and if you have any more that you can add, particularly from non-English sources, then it would be fantastic to add them.

    Here is one from Match of the Day magazine (which is aimed at children):

    100. Sancho
    99. Donnarumma
    98. Depay
    97. Immobile
    96. Jose Gimenez
    95. Alez Sandro
    94. Rabiot
    93. Paco Alcacer
    92. Arturo Vidal
    91. Pickford
    90. Torreira
    89. Lozano
    88. Carvajal
    87. Goretzka
    86. Mertens
    85. Perisic
    84. Lukaku
    83. Milinkovic-Savic
    82. Ter Stegen
    81. Pulisic
    80. Bernardo Silva
    79. Stones
    78. Higuain
    77. Martial
    76. Naby Keita
    75. Dele Alli
    74. Benzema
    73. Casemiro
    72. Vertonghen
    71. Pique
    70. Verratti
    69. Ousmane Dembele
    68. Alba
    67. Koke
    66. Marquinhos
    65. Thiago Alcantara
    64. Umtiti
    63. Alisson
    62. Asensio
    61. Walker
    60. Marcos Alonso
    59. Ozil
    58. Fekir
    57. Mahrez
    56. Pjanic
    55. James Rodriguez
    54. Jorginho
    53. Rashford
    52. Insigne
    51. Azpilicueta
    50. Koulibaly
    49. Lacazette
    48. Saul Niguez
    47. Firmino
    46. Chiellini
    45. Fernandinho
    44. Hummels
    43. Courtois
    42. Alderweireld
    41. Mane
    40. Isco
    39. Alaba
    38. Sane
    37. Eriksen
    36. Neuer
    35. Kimmich
    34. Icardi
    33. Thiago Silva
    32. Sterling
    31. Cavani
    30. Marcelo
    29. Ederson
    28. Aubameyang
    27. Bonucci
    26. Pogba
    25. Van Dijk
    24. Busquets
    23. Varane
    22. De Gea
    21. Rakitic
    20. Lewandowski
    19. Oblak
    18. Dybala
    17. Kroos
    16. Godin
    15. Aguero
    14. Bale
    13. Ramos
    12. Coutinho
    11. David Silva
    10. Salah
    9. Suarez
    8. Mbappe
    7. Kane
    6. Hazard
    5. De Bruyne
    4. Modric
    3. Neymar
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo
    1. Messi
     
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  2. comme

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    This one looks like they have forgotten Kante and Griezmann.
     
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  3. PuckVanHeel

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  4. comme

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    ESPNFC have just come up with their 100 which is a slightly different format, made up of top 10s for various positions:

    http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/25401799/espn-fc-100-2018#!

    Goalkeepers

    1. De Gea
    2. Oblak
    3. Courtois
    4. Alisson
    5. Ter Stegen
    6. Ederson
    7. Neuer
    8. Lloris
    9. Buffon
    10. Navas

    Right-backs

    1. Carvajal
    2. Kimmich
    3. Walker
    4. Pavard
    5. Dani Alves
    6. Trippier
    7. Meunier
    8. Azpilicueta
    9. Sergi Robero
    10. Juanfran

    Left-backs

    1. Marcelo
    2. Alaba
    3. Alba
    4. Alex Sandro
    5. Ben Mendy
    6. Lucas Hernandez
    7. Marcos Alonso
    8. Robertson
    9. Filipe Luis
    10. Kurzawa

    Centre-backs

    1. Ramos
    2. Varane
    3. Godin
    4. Van Dijk
    5. Chiellini
    6. Pique
    7. Umtiti
    8. Bonucci
    9. Koulibaly
    10. Vertonghen

    Central Midfield

    1. Modric
    2. Kante
    3. Kroos
    4. Pogba
    5. Busquets
    6. Rakitic
    7. Casemiro
    8. Jorginho
    9. Thiago Alcantara
    10. Verratti

    Attacking Midfield

    1. De Bruyne
    2. Isco
    3. David Silva
    4. Coutinho
    5. Eriksen
    6. Dele Alli
    7. Bernardo Silva
    8. James Rodriguez
    9. Koke
    10. Ozil

    Wide Forward

    1. Mane
    2. Sane
    3. Sterling
    4. Perisic
    5. Asensio
    6. Willian
    7. Insigne
    8. Ousmane Dembele
    9. Reus
    10. Douglas Costa

    Forward

    1. Messi
    2. Ronaldo
    3. Mbappe
    4. Hazard
    5. Griezmann
    6. Neymar
    7. Salah
    8. Bale
    9. Firmino
    10. Dybala

    Striker

    1. Kane
    2. Aguero
    3. Cavani
    4. Suarez
    5. Lewandowsi
    6. Lukaku
    7. Diego Costa
    8. Mandzukic
    9. Higuaín
    10. Icardi

    Managers

    1. Guardiola
    2. Klopp
    3. Simeone
    4. Allegri
    5. Sarri
    6. Deschamps
    7. Pochettino
    8. Ancelotti
    9. Tite
    10. Tuchel
     
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  5. comme

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    Here is another one from Match magazine (another one aimed at children). This one seems more orientated around the year of 2018.

    100. Giroud
    99. Buffon
    98. Milinkovic-Savic
    97. Willian
    96. Bernardo Silva
    95. Depay
    94. Verratti
    93. Ousmane Dembele
    92. James Rodriguez
    91. Donnarumma
    90. Lingard
    89. Zaha
    88. Di Maria
    87. Fekir
    86. Hummels
    85. Douglas Costa
    84. Thiago Alcantara
    83. Lozano
    82. Rashford
    81. Benatia
    80. Iniesta
    79. Asensio
    78. Naby Keita
    77. Maguire
    76. Robertson
    75. Thauvin
    74. Stones
    73. Ozil
    72. Insigne
    71. Alaba
    70. Gabriel Jesus
    69. Mertens
    68. Mahrez
    67. Koulibaly
    66. Marcos Alonso
    65. Vertonghen
    64. Ter Stegen
    63. Jorginho
    62. Trippier
    61. Chiellini
    60. Casemiro
    59. Azpilicueta
    58. Dele Alli
    57. Immobile
    56. Saul Niguez
    55. Alba
    54. Pickford
    53. Fernandinho
    52. Alderweireld
    51. Busquets
    50. Pjanic
    49. Ederson
    48. Lukaku
    47. Lloris
    46. Kimmich
    45. Dzeko
    44. Sane
    43. Perisic
    42. Pique
    41. Icardi
    40. Walker
    39. Mandzukic
    38. Aubameyang
    37. Van Dijk
    36. Courtois
    35. Oblak
    34. David Silva
    33. Dybala
    32. Firmino
    31. Sterling
    30. Rakitic
    29. De Gea
    28. Bale
    27. Lewandowski
    26. Eriksen
    25. Aguero
    24. Alisson
    23. Ramos
    22. Mane
    21. Isco
    20. Suarez
    19. Cavani
    18. Coutinho
    17. Godin
    16. Pogba
    15. Kroos
    14. Umtiti
    13. Marcelo
    12. Kante
    11. Griezmann
    10. Varane
    9. Hazard
    8. Neymar
    7. Kane
    6. De Bruyne
    5. Messi
    4. Salah
    3. Mbappe
    2. Cristiano Ronaldo
    1. Modric
     
  6. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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    That Lukas Tank guy (non-English) came with this



    Genuinely disagree with Hazard not being on the bench (at least) and to me there are better/proper footballers than Reus around (including German players). And oh, L. de Jong is an anti-footballer even if he had a few good games against proper elite teams this season.
     
  7. PuckVanHeel

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    #7 PuckVanHeel, Dec 10, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2018
    This one is not too bad

    Show Spoiler

    THE IFFHS WORLD TEAM 2018



    GOALKEEPER :

    Thibaut COURTOIS (Belgium/Chelsea FC/Real Madrid CF) 46%



    DEFENDERS :

    MARCELO Vieira da Silva Junior (Brazil/Real Madrid CF) 63%

    Sergio RAMOS (Spain/Real Madrid CF) 48%

    Raphaël VARANE (France/Real Madrid CF) 75%

    Diego GODIN (Uruguay/Clube Atlético Madrid) 30%



    MIDFIELDERS :

    Luka MODRIC (Croatia/Real Madrid CF) 95%

    Eden HAZARD (Belgium/Chelsea FC) 75%

    Antoine GRIEZMANN (France/Club e Atlético Madrid) 36%



    ATTACKERS :

    Lionel MESSI (Argentina/FC Barcelona) 75%

    Cristiano RONALDO (Portugal/Real Madrid CF/Juventus FC) 78%

    Kylian MBAPPE (France/Paris SG) 56%



    Coach : Didier DESCHAMPS (France) 45%





    SUBSTITUTES :



    Goalkeeper :

    Hugo LLORIS (France/Tottenham Hotspur FC) 14%



    Defenders :

    Kieran TRIPPIER (England/Tottenham Hotspur FC) 13%

    Virgil VAN DIJK (Netherlands/Liverpool FC) 15%

    Joshua KIMMICH (Germany/FC Bayern München) 13%

    Jordi ALBA (Spain/FC Barcelona) 13%



    Midfielders :

    N’Golo KANTE (France/Chelsea FC) 20%

    Paul POGBA (France/Manchester United FC) 26%

    Kevin DE BRUYNE (Belgium/Manchester City FC) 35%



    Attackers :

    Mohamed SALAH (Egypt/Liverpool FC) 29%

    NEYMAR (Brazil/Paris SG) 12%

    Harry KANE (England/Tottenham Hotspur FC) 7%


    https://iffhs.de/iffhs-awards-2018-the-men-world-team-2018/
     
  8. comme

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    The three best players in the Premier League this season have been Hazard, Sterling and David Silva. Lots of other good ones but those have been the best.
     
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  9. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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    Goal.com top 50 of past month (before the BdO results):

    http://www.goal.com/story/goal502018es/index.html

    I see they put Lozano in. Of course he had a decent World Cup (against opponents that matter) and I guess they have many Mexican/Spanish speaking readers, but I'd say it isn't clear-cut whether he's PSV's best player (even if he belongs among the two most talented in my opinion). Domestically he was good against Ajax and meh against Feyenoord. On 'talent' it is a better suggestion as L. de Jong. It is not unthinkable PSV will make at least 60 million profit on him.

    https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/129/Show/Netherlands-PSV-Eindhoven

    (okay, that is my take, ignore if you like)
     
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  10. comme

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    He's certainly a popular man in North London now.
     
  11. PuckVanHeel

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  12. PuckVanHeel

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    This is maybe also something for @PDG1978 (PDG asked me for my top five a few days back and I had the same as theirs except for that I had Mbappe in instead of Modric for 2018)

    I've read now the whole thing and have to say it is a nice read and interesting to see which players receive unanimous approval, while for others only one of them is truly convinced. It is a long-ish piece but can recommend it to everyone.


    On a team-by-team basis it is not too bad (i.e. Lewandowski best Bayern player; Busquets #2 for Barcelona; Torreira for Arsenal; Marco Reus is together with Witsel the only in the midfield and attack of Borussia certain of a starting place, against the 'bigger' teams too) although I wouldn't have Aguero as #1 for ManCity. I think I'd also have Pjanic above Matuidi and maybe Chiellini in the Juve hierarchy (good and accurate comment on him being one of the best free kick takers in the world with 20%+ conversion rate).




    Most of those team-by-team choices feel good.

    Lozano gets again included ( and somewhat surprisingly to me Memphis was one of those to get approval by everyone (although he has done some things on the bigger stages this year, including three assists against ManCity + involved in one other goal in the UCL; good/great games for NT against Portugal, Peru, France, Germany, Belgium this year). Although there are from time to time some irregularities I'd say I can agree with the comment on him helping to bring fluidity and freedom to the attack - it's not purely a 100% focus on delivering as many goals and assists as possible. There is also a calculating element in his game (for Orange NT at least) in that he can recognize it isn't his day but keeps two/three defenders busy which might still pay off at the end.



    2017-18 goals


    (also noticed the first video got 650000 views within three weeks; I quickly looked at Insigne videos for a comparison and those get a lot less somehow)


    It remains bizarre how the man was a Feyenoord fan in his youth and still is (although P. Kluivert was/is his example), grew up in their backyard, but the club didn't think much of him. This once again shows how difficult it is to recognize 'talent'.
     
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  13. PuckVanHeel

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    Oh this one is better (showing long balls and the through balls more, statistically one of his main strengths)
     
  14. comme

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    It's a good read and interesting stuff but is very individual (which reflects the nature of its construction) and I don't just mean the wild card choices.

    It feels quite haphazard and there are some inclusions I just can't understand as well as some people placed strangely lowly.

    Anyway, overall it's good and I am pleased to be able to read it in English for the first time.

    50. Barella
    49. Torreira
    48. Josef Martinez
    47. Federico Chiesa
    46. Bailey
    45. Milner
    44. Rebic
    43. Bale
    42. Brozovic
    41. Courtois
    40. Lozano
    39. Suarez
    38. Higuain
    37. Kimmich
    36. Dzeko
    35. Pjanic
    34. Depay
    33. Insigne
    32. Eriksen
    31. Lewandowski
    30. Lukaku
    29. Jorginho
    28. Chiellini
    27. Cavani
    26. Reus
    25. Matuidi
    24. Ramos
    23. Busquets
    22. David Silva
    21. Firmino
    20. Icardi
    19. Kane
    18. Marcelo
    17. Oblak
    16. Alisson
    15. Pogba
    14. Neymar
    13. Sterling
    12. Koulibaly
    11. Aguero
    10. Van Dijk
    9. Kante
    8. De Bruyne
    7. Mbappe
    6. Griezmann
    5. Hazard
    4. Salah
    3. Messi
    2. Crisriano Ronaldo
    1. Modric
     
  15. LegendarySunrise

    Jan 26, 2016
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    Germany
    After today‘s game and especially his performance since last season, I can safely say Thiago is way too underrated. I know playing in Bundesliga puts him at a disadvantage, but the way he plays since last season under Jupp Keynckes(see the 2nd leg semi-final UCL how he and James skillfully controlled midfield and put Modric and Kroos into the quiet mode), his tight space ball control, his covering and support in running the game in the midfield, his work rate and his underrated defense capability makes him probably the only midfielder in the world that resembles the characteristics of prime Xavi/Iniesta and I would say he is a significantly significantly better player and has significantly surpassed Toni Kroos.

    Given the dreadful performance of Toni Kroos at the World Cup 2018, who had so many sloppy play, made so many sloppy decisions when being pressured by opponents against teams like Mexico/Korea/Sweden and who gave the ball away so cheaply so many times even not under heavy pressure situations).

    For strikers, if it were one to two seasons ago, I would have no problem saying Suarez was the best, but Lewandowski has taken his place so far this season, his goal score rate in both Bundesliga/UCL are just insane.
     
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  16. PuckVanHeel

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    #16 PuckVanHeel, Dec 16, 2018
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    Yes I see what you mean and certainly individual choices are involved, but as said still found it an interesting read and interesting to see which ones receive universal approval. On a team-by-team basis I think (my idea) it is fairly good.

    I'd think someone like Lewandowski, Suarez, Kane and Neymar are strangely low, but also noticed the (Spanish?) goal.com top 50 had Neymar at #24. Perhaps also Sergio Ramos is low but his typically awful positioning was again a reason why they lost heavily against a Barcelona without Messi (not for the first time).

    In terms of strange inclusions among the first 40 places, I think of Matuidi (but was great against Argentina I think), Higuain (scored only 16 goals this year in all competitions and he hasn't the assists to compensate for it) and Lukaku.
     
  17. PuckVanHeel

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    I personally agree about Thiago his 'class' but think his problem for this year is the irregular appearances and participations (for a midfielder) and also that for Spain he appeared in only two games at the World Cup (94 minutes in total) and again only appearing on-and-off in three nations league games (195 minutes in total).

    His overall best (and most productive) has been 2016-17 surely where he was maybe his team's best player (if it was not Robben - who was clear #1 in the ratings - or ace Lewandowski back then).

    https://www.bdfutbol.com/es/p/j8452.html?cat=-&temp=2017-18&equip=-&rival=-&jug=tot
    https://www.bdfutbol.com/es/p/j8452.html?cat=-&temp=2018-19&equip=-&rival=-&jug=tot

    (one thing to note too: he played yesterday against the bottom placed team of the league)
     
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  18. comme

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    Yes, Matuidi I think is a mad inclusion. Even at his peak (which is a while ago) he wasn't a top 25 player. Lukaku I can kind of understand in that he was excellent at the World Cup at least (but has been very poor at club level).

    There are a lot of omissions as well. Isco, Kroos, Dybala, De Gea, Varane, Umtiti.
     
  19. carlito86

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    #19 carlito86, Dec 16, 2018
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    Can anybody tell me what happened to this guy?
    once upon a time in fact not all that long ago he was considered as Harry Kane’s equal.
    Now if you mention them in the same bracket you’d be ridiculed

    In his last season for Everton he looked like a serious handful.many will point to him not scoring against big club teams and there does seem to be substance to that but that’s really besides the point
    I remember watching him live when he singlehandedly destroyed Bournemouth in 2017 scoring 4 goals and putting on IMO the best individual display by any premier league striker since Suarez vs Norwich in 2013

    He scored a sensational solo goal against prem winners Chelsea that same season
    Now for Manchester United he can’t even control the ball let alone score a goal
    It’s totally embarrassing and sad.im not sure who’s to blame Lukaku himself of Mourinho who has a quite unrivalled history in being able to get the best out of players and also completely destroy them
     
  20. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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    Clearly there is something wrong. For the national team he does his job very well (is also saying the Josimar article) but yesterday he was facing a makeshift Liverpool defense, and he has been successful in 'dominating' (seeking out) Lovren and creating goals that way. That said, his inconsistent touch has always been criticized, even back when he was at Anderlecht.

    The team as a whole doesn't help:
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/16/football-dire-jose-mourinho-enjoying-it


    (for clarity: this includes his games for Chelsea, WBA and Everton - where it is perhaps more likely to happen)




    I think with the (possible) exception of Varane and Umititi that are all special cases. I can understand a bit they don't attract fans among the panel, with also not an advocate stepping up to express strong feelings in their defense (as happened for Kimmich etc. though he was slightly off-beat and drawn out of position against Mexico).


    Isco has been fantastic for Spain (incl. the back end of 2017) but three successive club managers (Zidane, Lopetegui, Solari) struggle to find the right place for him and he has been booed by the Real Madrid crowd recently, is simply not playing well the past couple of months. It is well possible a substitute or bench player of Real Madrid is better than a starter for Chelsea, but not sure where he would play at another team. On his ball-playing ability and national team form (incl. the ill-fated Russia match) he's top 50 material surely. Scored 10 goals (no pens) in 19 national team games the past two years, including a couple big scalps.

    De Gea is the opposite case. Great for his club (this season maybe slightly less, has had a few 'errors leading to goal' while he had zero past season in all competitions), but outright questionable for the national team. I think I can understand why they prefer the other three mentioned goalkeepers.

    Kroos has been inconsistent for the national side (as demonstrated by LSR's comments above) and also generally not in control in the 'big' games for Real Madrid (not even in the CL, the CL KO games) - a year below his normal level I'd say. Journalists are understandably heavily influenced by the bigger matches, which is indirectly mentioned there. His technique and ball control is frankly also overshadowed by Modric his sorcery. Marcelo (included in the top 50) was crucial for their Champions League win, after Cristiano their most productive player, and played well in the World Cup (one of Brazil's best performers).

    Dybala hasn't been the man of the assist recently and is now a bit hindered by Cristiano his arrival (I think). In 2017-18 he was great in the league (despite Allegri not fully trusting/using him) but sub-standard in the Champions League (this season very good there even if four of the five came against Young Boys, but played only 20 mins as a sub in the 2nd match). Has only recently scored his first ever goal for the national team (after 18 matches). Horncastle and Marcotti overlooking him (both with an Italian focus) certainly peculiar. It is to be hoped for him he doesn't become the man who was incompatible with both Messi and Ronaldo.
     
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  21. PuckVanHeel

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    For what is worth here a Horncastle article from december last year (indeed, had a great 2017-18 start; also a good end).

    http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/italia...h-paulo-dybala-and-should-juventus-be-worried


    Here some quite unforgiving (and harsh) comments about his overall game and approach (if that is true, then it is understandable he doesn't fit well next to Messi/Ronaldo & it is potentially detrimental for CL hopes)

    https://pesstatsdatabase.com/forum/...id=f64d4b50a92bebc9cc33d2441a311f89&start=160

    Not sure whether that is my own opinion though, but am struggling to recall 'big game' performances by him of this year (Milan? Tottenham?).
     
  22. comme

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    I like Dybala but he's a player of moments rather than dominating games. He's a bit like Dele Alli in that regard in that he has flashes of brilliance but if he doesn't have one of them then he can be quite frustrating to watch.

    He scored a big goal against Spurs but he didn't have a big game.

    Fortunately, for him, he has enough of those flashes to be a regular contributor.
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

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    Oct 4, 2011
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    Yes I can see that and one of the two main criteria was "helped their team the most" (the other main criteria was "which players have played the best"). Which is I think a sensible idea and deceptively clever to consider in tandem (instead of only taking the quasi-individualized stats or so). Then I'd understand and agree with Pjanic being ahead (16 non-penalty goals in the league not exceptional), but definitely not Matuidi.
     
  24. PuckVanHeel

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    #24 PuckVanHeel, Dec 19, 2018
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  25. PuckVanHeel

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    To round it off, I saw a Sunday Times article that captures quite well in which nuanced/mixed terms he gets discussed in his own country ("Roy Keane agreeing with you on Sky right now, and saying he'd have loved to have shared a dressing room with Memphis. (this may not be entirely true)"). It isn't the aim of the article but in effect it managed to do so.


    Show Spoiler

    Memphis Depay: ‘If you don’t perform well some people want you to hide. I’m not that type of person.’
    Things are looking up at Lyons for the player dubbed one of the best of his age at Old Trafford before being rejected by Van Gaal and moved on by Mourinho

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    What has changed for Memphis Depay? Sipping coke and nibbling olives in Lyons’ old town, a deep young man tells a story of growth and learning to be himself again. He is just back from Ukraine, where he set up Nabil Fekir to send their side into the Champions League knockouts, and that’s a symmetrical 33 goals and 33 assists in 84 league and European games since he left Manchester United. Memphis’s first words frame the rest of our long conversation: “Lyons allowed me to be who I am, to be free — on the pitch and outside as well.”

    United was a different experience. Critics said he “did not ‘want it enough” whereas the truth was, he says, he wanted it too much. On the pitch he was forcing it, over-eager to impress. Off it, he overthought things and overdid the gym, desperate to get back in the team after being benched by Louis van Gaal and barely even in Jose Mourinho’s matchday squads. Memphis would lurk “in my big, big house not really happy,” feeling he could not go out. “If you don’t perform well some people want you to hide and be in your cave and I’m so not that type of person.”

    He reminds you he was only 21, 22 and like many young people “was struggling with being myself and finding out who I am.” It is tempting to see him as a victim of the press — who picked on irrelevancies such as his cars and jackets — or as yet another talent United failed in the post-Fergie era, but Memphis regards both portrayals as excuses. “If I look back, it was just me. I wanted to succeed so bad. I wanted to train so hard.

    “I don’t think it was the English media, because the media don’t determine how I play in the game. Sometimes my opportunities weren’t enough but I didn’t deliver what was expected, never mind what people expect, what I expect from myself. And Manchester is a great club. I don’t feel they treated me wrong.”

    United inserted a time-limited buyback clause within his sale to Lyons in January 2017 and he is once more looking the footballer Van Gaal billed as among the world’s best for his age. “When I left,” smiles Memphis, “I said to Mourinho ‘you will see me at the top.’ He said ‘OK, I hope that and I hope we will buy you back one day.’ I never had a bad relationship with him.” Van Gaal? More complex. “We didn’t fall out, it was just a misconnection with each other. As a team we didn’t play great football and some things I don’t understand — if you have talented young players, Anthony Martial, Luke Shaw and the others, they need freedom.”

    Memphis developed as a free-moving attacker at PSV Eindhoven, his youth football coming at striker or No 10, but Van Gaal shackled him to the left wing with strict rules. “It’s not like you weren’t allowed to dribble or anything,” he recalls, “it was just the tasks you had. When you give some players too much information they think too much.

    “Young players shouldn’t think, if they give the ball away, ‘next ball I have to play safe’. That’s not football. That’s not me. I put risk in my game, try to be reckless but in a good way. One time I wanted to work on my left foot and crosses, so I was doing extra training with Giggsy. (Van Gaal) called me in his office and said ‘why are you training?’ I said I want to improve my cross with my left foot. He said your crosses are already good, it’s in your head. He wasn’t happy I was training extra and things like that make you think as a young guy. At the time I wasn’t playing and had wanted to show how much I want this, that I’d do more than normal to get my chance again.”

    He played for Van Gaal again at Dirk Kuyt’s testimonial in May. “I hadn’t met him since the last game of the (2015-16) season when he put me out of the squad for the FA Cup final. I don’t know if that was personal. It doesn’t matter any more. But I saw him at Kuyt’s game...and even in that game I was coming from the bench!” says Memphis, bursting out laughing. “I played only the last 15 minutes!”

    He holds no bitterness towards Mourinho either. “I thought I was going to fight for a second chance under him and found I didn’t really have that chance. I saw everybody playing left wing except me, even Wayne Rooney. Rooney is of course a legendary player but not a winger. I don’t blame the manager. Maybe he doesn’t like my style of play. I love playing beautiful football, tricks and doing cheeky things. I don’t know if that’s his type of game.”

    It was heartening that every time Mourinho’s matchday squad went on the board and he wasn’t in it, other players expressed surprise. They knew he was training well. It was actually away from Carrington that life was most difficult. “I wasn’t really myself,” Memphis reflects. “I didn’t change the way I was dressing or driving but it didn’t make me feel good. People think I think so much of myself but it was really the other way around. I was driving a nice car but not enjoying it. Feeling people don’t like me, because they imagine I’m thinking I’m better than them. I was struggling with that. I remember some of the quotes about me, like ‘party boy’. That’s just pure lies. I went out only once in one and a half years in Manchester and it wasn’t even fun. I am not a party boy.

    “The problem is people read then see you on the pitch and think ‘this guy is taking the piss, goes to Manchester and wears No7, isn’t playing well, just parties, he’s driving a Rolls Royce.’ Nothing positive. And that’s basically a guy I’m not. I had to learn to be deaf and blind.” He means shut out the things written or said, but explains this refers to praise as well as criticism. Now when he scores he puts his fingers in his ears and the message is not defiance “but more about having tunnel vision, being focused on yourself and your goals”. On social media, kids around the world tell him that — and his story — strikes a chord with them and from the gesture a ‘Memphis Foundation’ was born, through which he helps deaf and blind children, in Africa and Holland, giving them a better life through music, education and sport.

    How happy he seems now. On YouTube compilations of his goals in France you will see impudent one-on-ones, Panenka penalties, audacious finishes from outside the box — including an extraordinary strike from the centre circle against Toulouse. The positivity he carries on to the field goes hand-in-hand with a new zest for life. “I am loving life,” he says. “Every morning I start by getting on my knees and thanking God and then my day is set.”

    He has had a powerful reconnection with the Christian faith in which his mother, Cora, raised him. He appreciates social media for helping him convey who he really is. On Instagram he displays his taste for elaborate clothes, for glamour, and music, but he also posts sensitive and soulful messages. He is no longer “hiding”. Individuality is his key of life.

    “When I was young, and I’m talking five, six years old, I liked flashy colours, the shirts I wore,” he smiles, “and some people liked it, some didn’t. ‘Hey, what are you doing wearing pink?!”

    Not limiting his self-expression to football is crucial too. Memphis is musical: he has been writing songs and making music since he was young and it “feels like therapy.” Recently he posted himself freestyle rapping, wielding a cigar, and of course some did not like it (“I smoke a cigar on vacation or if I’m celebrating but I’m not a smoker,” he explains). However Lyons’ coach, Bruno Genesio, stopped him at training. “Hey, I like that video!” Genesio said. The club even reposted it.

    Perhaps that sums up all that’s changed. “You start by being happy with yourself again,” he reflects. “And now I still have beautiful cars, but they are not in Lyons. Because the streets are small! I’m driving just a Hyundai from the club and I like it. I drive around the city somewhere, maybe get a coffee and read my Bible at a nice location. I am really happy. My life is very... natural. I think I can be a main player at one of the top five clubs in the world but football is not my only purpose. I now just enjoy being in the moment in the game, letting things flow. I’m not even 70% of where I can go.”


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