The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bury FC fans have just been sentenced to near certain relegation for not having enough money to pay their players.

    It's only 12 points, so you could argue that it still gives them a chance of staying up based on "sporting merit" but let's not kid ourselves..
     
  2. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Learn what that actually means before typing again.
     
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  3. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

    Apr 22, 2009
    Warminster, Pa.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean such as Dutch soccer fans wearing orange Indian regalia, including orange Indian headdresses, like the fans I saw at the Holland-Saudi Arabia game in DC during the 1994 World Cup?
     
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  4. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Bury were promoted last season. Sporting merit dictates that clubs who overspend their means are penalized so it seems perfectly in line with that principle.
     
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a fairly large statement of fact when its really an opinion.
     
  6. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #21981 M, Jul 19, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019
    How so? Bury employed players they ultimately couldn't afford to pay and won promotion using those players. Surely there should be some form of sanction for that? Otherwise, why is that a level playing field with clubs that missed out on promotion - e.g. Mansfield etc?
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's called running a business successfully or not, its not inherently a component of sporting merit (which itself is a fuzzy undefined term).
     
  8. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    #21983 M, Jul 19, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2019
    Given that they are competing against other teams in a league, I disagree. Can teams ignore US salary caps with complete impunity?
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thus my statement that its an opinion, not a fact
     
  10. Many winters ago, long before the white man came, Alowat-Sakima/Gitche-Manitou sent a storm that drove a couple of canoes with families up onto the ocean.
    They peddled for days and reached a shore where they were greeted by friendly natives and mingled.
    To blend in they sometimes use the natives favourite colour.


     
  11. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Dressing like that is cultural appropriation at minimum, unintentionally racist at medium, willfully racist at maximum.
     
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  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top football brands values (Statista)
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  13. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    It pays well to be the biggest brand also ran.
     
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  14. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I realize Darren Rovell is a symptom and not the cause for the conflation of brand and sporting ability, but he'll still be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
     
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  17. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's freaking RIDICULOUS
    and YES

    Sadly he's the reason I was in an ESPN piece LOL .... but yeah, he's got quite a bit coming to him.
     
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  18. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds to me like there's other "merit" at play here.
     
  20. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    News outlets are reporting that Notts County have been saved with days to go before potential extinction. They must be mad!
     
  21. CrazyJ628

    CrazyJ628 Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    The center of the Earth
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    That's good to hear. Hopefully a new group of investors can turn things around.
     
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  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There nearly always is. I hope Bury find one too.

    Very excited about the new owners.

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  23. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    So from dick pics to betting predictions. You couldn't make this stuff up.
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FC Andorra is "double-promoted" after buying their way into the third tier with a large payment by Barcelona player Pique. Pique now owns a team who will play competitive matches against Barcelona B.

    But "sporting merit" something something...

     
  25. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fake news, this doesn't happen in pro/rel proper footiefutbolfooterson mcmerit sportz
     
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