You're not "playing my games", huh? That's amusing. Come on M. You can do better than that. You know full well that you avoided that question twice and you'd be all over anyone who did the same to you. Michelin stars are a highly regarded rating that can and do attract customers to a restaurant. USSF divisional designations essentially rate a league in terms of its standard based on its clubs resources, coverage, infrastructure and viability. To your other comments, I already acknowledged a conflict and said I hope it changes. But I get it. I got it long ago. More fool me for trying to discuss an issue in good faith with someone who uses the terms "rigged", "cartel" and "gloryhunter".
Still missing the point I see. In addition to its role in rating restaurants, how does Michelin regulate the restaurants it rates? Anything constructive to add to the thread?
I don't get what he's saying. I couldn't have been prouder to be in attendance when Robbie Rogers took the field for my LA Galaxy for his first pro appearance after coming out of the closet. This is why people like him get "trolled". Because "prorelforusa" is constantly looking to attach itself to other causes to manufacture some kind of moral high ground that it doesn't truly hold. Amusing that you're still here, after yesterday's song and dance. Amusing and slightly disappointing. Now prepare to witness how putting someone on ignore works for somebody using it sincerely.
No, you simply don't want to get what he's saying. You know full well what he meant. Nitpick and cherry pick. It's your calling card. No. "prorelforusa" is a simple hashtag that hundreds of fans use, and means many different things to many different people. I was proud when fans from Little Rock Arkansas met us at a bar, then proceeded to the stadium, and unfurled a "ProRelForUSA" banner. That banner has been used in many different places. Just because you want to stereotype, pidgeon-hole, and demand we have to talk about Ted because you say so doesn't mean we have to do anything other than endorse the concept of Pro/Rel. That's what we're doing with that statement. I felt I needed a parting shot before I left but that post was deleted. I believe my unscientific twitter poll resulted in 50% wanting me to boycott bigsoccer, 13% said no, while another 37% opted for "What's bigsoccer?" So, if you'd like to put me on IGNORE for weeks/months at a time, then I may ultimately decide to stay here and write multiple replies to your posts when I know you're ignoring me. After all, turnabout is fair play.
I certainly wasn't. I answered the scarf tweet with a legit answer .... and then made a "Holy ******** this is ridiculous" retweet of their RIDICULOUS tweet: Holy Fuck .... This is beyond ridiculous. https://t.co/zxZeiOGjaH— David (@AlamoCitySC) February 22, 2018 My God Jeff ... their entire stance is flat out insane. I made one other tweet when someone asked if they were being serious or not. You're into TED levels of slander and misrepresentation at this point. You want to talk about how people can't leave you out of it on here (or leave others alone) yet you do the same shit over social media. My THREE tweets in reference to this account were 1- legitimate answering of something they proposed 2- a retweet of an absurd tweet 2- answering someone else about them being serious Jesus ... grow the hell up.
....did Jeff bring his Twitter failure onto this thread, right in the middle of a conversation about how Twitter isn't relevant to this thread? "Show Ignored Content" is just sitting there, so inviting.... Anyway. I should let the festival of deleted Tweets on the part of Brave Sir Kenneth not speak for themselves, I guess, but I'm more offended for progressivism than anything else. How do we fight racism? Let every race form soccer clubs and work their way up the pyramid! How do we fight homophobia and transphobia? Let every orientation form soccer clubs and work their way up the pyramid! How do we fight for children and seniors? Let all ages form soccer clubs and work their way up the pyramid! How do we protect the environment? Let dolphins form soccer clubs and work their way up the pyramid! How do we fight climate change? Let melting icecaps form soccer clubs and work their way up the pyramid! I've asked many times whether it's the bad people that make the arguments bad, or the bad arguments that make the people bad. Clearly the answer is, "Yes."
The Barra's issue is with the DC United Front Office. Motorik is hoping to poach some soccer fans who are turned off by the ownership's ongoing campaign to neuter and ultimately either co-opt or eliminate the independent SGs. It's been an ongoing struggle since the new owners took control, but the latest agreement between the FO and the Screaming Eagles just turned a long-simmering dispute into a full-fledged conflict. Again, I don't begrudge Motorik seeing an opportunity to market themselves. I also don't think it means anything significant.
Pro/rel enhances religious freedom? I think I need a new sport to follow. Points for a unique marketing approach, though. Dairy Queen will defeat global warming if you buy more Blizzards.
Apparently the post was meant to be about the closed system disenfranchising minority ownership. 1) Is there an ethnic group not represented somewhere among MLS owners? 2) How did they come to this conclusion? What aspect of bidding for a club disenfranchises minority ownership?
Yes fans have that power. So wouldn't it be in a leagues best interest to listen to their fans, in a meaningful way? Particularly for a league that has a lot more competition than the NFL.
I think most MLS supporters care more about drums and flags, tifos and capos, than they care about pro/rel. I mean, how many fans would want to open their club up to dropping out of the league?
But fans aren't demanding it. If say the XFL actually puts a product out there that's different and appeals to football fans, then fans will go to it. We've seen it before with the NBA adopting many of the ABA's rules when the merger happened. But fans aren't out there demanding it. Despite a few blow-hards on Twitter ranting about it, the lack of pro/rel isn't holding back the growth of soccer in America. MLS is seeing growth in attendance, sponsorship dollars and modest growth in TV ratings. Fans are not demanding it. If in ten years, USL has set up a pro/rel system and are pulling fans from MLS then we'll talk.
Look who the president of Motorik FC just threw his support behind: 966556890930040833 is not a valid tweet id To those new to the broader US pro/rel discussion, soccerreform is Ted Westerveldt.
Indeed. The Barra are pissed about a lot of things right now; the fact that we haven't been relegated ain't one of them.
MLS fans care about jumping around on game day. Lower Division FC that formed yesterday fans care about cutesy-cool Twitter profiles and scarves as a fashion accessory. Sometimes I get the feeling the big problem here is that U.S. soccer fans don't actually much care about the actual sport.
Not sure this was posted already or talked about but interesting article here on 442. https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/1988-us-soccer-plans-promotion-relegation-system-mls
Thanks for posting. The story of Werner Fricker's pro/rel plan has floated around for a number of years now, but I'm not sure if it was ever on this thread.