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  1. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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  2. Ashur

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    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
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    #202 Ashur, Sep 20, 2017
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  3. United 16

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    Manchester United
    Mar 25, 2016
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  4. United 16

    United 16 Member+

    Manchester United
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  5. United 16

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    Manchester United
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  6. gatekeeper2

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    Jun 1, 2015
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  7. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Sep 2, 2004
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    The good thing is we are scoring goals in quick succession which is something we have failed to do in recent seasons. What we need to do now is start scoring these goals earlier in games which would allow us to control the game and rest.
     
  8. gatekeeper2

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    Jun 1, 2015
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    In truth, we have controlled the tempo of each game from the first whistle.

    Despite improved finishing over last season, it can improve even more. Do that and we can bring on your boy Lingard at the start of the second half.
     
  9. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Yet the lack of early scoring has resulted in us exerting far more energy than we should over the 90. When we were at our best we would score goals early, shut up shop and coast.
     
  10. JamesA

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    Dec 7, 2004
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    Manchester United FC
    Stats don't support this. Only 2 teams have covered less ground than us in the league.
     
  11. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Energy does not equate to ground covered.
     
  12. JamesA

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    Dec 7, 2004
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    Your reaching.
     
  13. Teso Dos Bichos

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    When we defend a lead we cover less ground because everyone sits progressively deeper and deeper while our attacks just become long, aimless punts to Lukaku. We cede possession and the imputus to the opposition. Instead of relaxing we are panicking in our third while mentally takes a toll as well.
     
  14. JamesA

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    Dec 7, 2004
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    True.

    But I think it's a stretch to claim we're using more energy
     
  15. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Contrast it to the good old days when we would blitz teams early with multiple goals in succession and then give them the ball in their own half, win it back the second they cross into our half and proceed to let the ball do the work and tire the opposition out by passing it around amongst ourselves for a while.

    Taking advantage of teams late and with fresh substitutions is all well and good when it works but it is not optimal given the result is not secure for the majority of the game and we roll the dice by risking dropping deeper and deeper. The added exertion, physical and mental, is the desperate defending or the desperate attacking.

    If we can get these multiple goals earlier in games we would make life a lot easier for ourselves.
     
  16. gatekeeper2

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    I can’t comment on today’s performance but before today our performances have been dominant but choppy.

    On the energy question it needs to acknowledged that we’re fielding several players who are past the peak of their careers. We just can’t go high tempo for long stretches.
     
  17. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jun 4, 2006
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    @cr7torossi what do you think of the Herrera situation now? didn't see a reply in the Basel thread
     
  18. United 16

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  19. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    After today

    City +2.6
    United +0.85
    Chelsea -2.85
    Arsenal -3.15
    Liverpool -3.2
    Spurs -3.55
     
  20. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    I can't believe how much Liverpool are flying under the radar, specifically Klopp.

    If he drops points again tomorrow, he should be getting hammered by the media.
     
  21. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
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    I wish, Liverpool fan would have a huge dilemma with Rafa beating them
     
  22. JamesA

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    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
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    I wouldn't be stunned to see Rafa get a draw.
     
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  23. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    After MD7

    City +2.6
    United +0.85
    Chelsea -2.85
    Arsenal -2.95
    Spurs -3.55
    Liverpool -4.7
     
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  24. JamesA

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    ...

    So, how hard will he get it? If anything?
     
  25. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    None. He is all "passion".
     

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