The 2014 MLS Race

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  1. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    The 2W-2L-1T run are not really "Predictions", but more of "Projections" by simply assuming that the Most Recent Home/Road results vs each team repeat themselves in the upcoming games. ;)

    So far, the accuracies of the Projections have been hovering between 45~70% on weekly basis... :)

     
  2. TheBiff

    TheBiff Member+

    Apr 8, 2011
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I hate these articles, they are the ultimate jinx.
    Once they come up its over for us.
     
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  3. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    The Official Site had apparently taken turns to jinx Dallas, L.A. & Seattle at different points of the season. (for the sake of parity, perhaps?)

    Soon after each article, these teams either lost games (FCD, SEA) or dropped points (LAG)... :p

     
  4. GoRSL

    GoRSL Member+

    Jan 7, 2013
    47.615587, -122.200340
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Hopefully they'll start jinxing LA and Seattle more - goodness knows they need some jinxing. Shield race down to them at this point after their beat downs on RBNY and Chivas this weekend.
     
  5. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (as of 9/29)

    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    1. DC UNITED
    51 PTS, 30 GP, 5 GR, 4 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/3 vs Sporting KC
    • 10/12 at Houston
    • 10/18 vs Chicago
    • 10/27 at Tauro FC (CCL - Panama)
    • 10/25 at Montreal

    2. New England Revolution
    45 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/4 vs Columbus
    • 10/11 at Montreal
    • 10/16 at Houston
    • 10/25 vs Toronto FC

    3. Sporting KC
    45 PTS, 30 GP, 5 GR, 4 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/3 at DC United
    • 10/10 vs Chicago
    • 10/18 at Philadelphia
    • 10/23 at Saprissa (CCL - Costa Rica)
    • 10/26 vs NYRB
    4. Columbus Crew
    43 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 9/27 vs Montreal
    • 10/4 at New England
    • 10/11 at Philadelphia
    • 10/19 at New York
    • 10/26 vs Philadelphia

    5. New York Red Bulls
    41 PTS, 30 GP, 5 GR, 4 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 9/24 at CD FAS (CCL - El Salvador)
    • 9/28 at Los Angeles
    • 10/4 vs Houston
    • 10/11 vs Toronto FC
    • 10/19 vs Columbus
    • 10/22 vs Montreal (CCL)
    • 10/26 at Sporting KC

    6. Toronto FC
    40 PTS, 29 GP, 5 GR, 5 MLS
    • 10/4 at Los Angeles
    • 10/8 vs Houston
    • 10/11 at New York
    • 10/18 vs Montreal
    • 10/25 at New England

    7. Philadelphia Union
    38 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 9/27 at DC United
    • 10/2 vs Chicago
    • 10/11 vs Columbus
    • 10/18 vs Sporting KC
    • 10/26 at Columbus

    8. Houston Dynamo
    36 PTS, 29 GP, 5 GR, 5 MLS
    • 10/4 at New York
    • 10/8 at Toronto FC
    • 10/12 vs DC United
    • 10/16 vs New England
    • 10/24 at Chicago


    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    1. Seattle Sounders

    57 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/5 at cRapids
    • 10/10 vs Vancouver
    • 10/19 at Los Angeles
    • 10/25 vs Los Angeles

    2. Los Angeles Galaxy
    57 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/4 vs Toronto FC
    • 10/12 at FC Dallas
    • 10/19 vs Seattle
    • 10/25 at Seattle

    3. Real Salt Lake
    49 PTS, 30 GP, 5 GR, 4 MLS, 1 Friendly
    • 9/30 vs Sacramento (Friendly)
    • 10/5 at Chivas USA
    • 10/11 vs San Jose
    • 10/17 at Portland
    • 10/22 vs Chivas USA

    4. FC Dallas
    48 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/4 at Vancouver
    • 10/12 vs Los Angeles
    • 10/18 at cRapids
    • 10/25 vs Portland
    5. Vancouver Whitecaps
    40 PTS, 30 PG, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/4 vs FC Dallas
    • 10/10 at Seattle
    • 10/18 at San Jose
    • 10/25 vs cRapids

    6. Portland Timbers
    39 PTS, 30 GP, 5 GR, 4 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/4 at San Jose
    • 10/8 vs San Jose
    • 10/17 vs Real Salt Lake
    • 10/21 at CD Olimpia (CCL - Honduras)
    • 10/25 at FC Dallas


    OVERALL STANDINGS
    1. Seattle Sounders
    2. LA Galaxy
    3. DC United
    4. Real Salt Lake
    5. FC Dallas
    6. New England
    7. Sporting KC
    8. Columbus
    9. NYRB
    10. Toronto
    11. Vancouver
    12. Portland
    13. Philadelphia
    14. Houston
     
  6. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Notes
    • As RSL fans, we need DC United to drop points in their last 4 games. Hopefully Sporting KC and Houston can find their feet against them... Yeah, I just said cheer for Houston and Sporting. Excuse me while I vomit.
    • For the sake of the league, we need New England to not host MLS Cup. That would be a shit show. So would DC, but New England even more so. The football lines would still be on the field. It would be a debacle. The Revs are somewhat fun to watch (I personally don't care for them, but that's just me) but they can't host. It would be embarrassing.
    • How far can SKC slide? I actually don't want them in the playoffs just because well ******** them, but I don't see it happening. Still, it is crazy tight for those last 2-3 playoff spots. Looks like it'll be another "so close" year for Philly. Too little too late from Houston (though you never know with them) and a really crazy finish with Columbus/TFC/NYRB for likely 2 spots.
    • Calling it now: LA wins the SS. They're catching fire at just the right time. Have found a left back in Robbie Rogers, Keane isn't off his game anymore, and LD looks like he wants to go out like Beckham did. That team scares me. Either they win both MLS Cup and the SS or neither.
    • I don't know what to expect from Seattle. Martins is special, but their defense leaves a lot to be desired still. I am really excited to watch this home/home series with LA to finish the season. PLEASE get heated and get guys ejected. PLEASE!!
    • As for us, gotta take care of business. There is absolutely no reason this team should lose it's 1 point lead. In fact, I see that going back to a 3 or 4 point gap this weekend. Anything short of 10 points to finish the season is inexcusable.
    • The battle between Portland and Vancouver for the last spot is really intriguing. Neither team has a schedule that you can confidently say they'll be able to handle. The home and home with SJ for Portland should be 6 points but those 2 teams always seem to find a way to frustrate each other. Further, Portland has to finish with us and Dallas around a CCL game. Vancouver doesn't have it much better with their next two games against top sides, but they finish with SJ and the cRapids. I think we go into the last day with Vancouver holding a point or two lead. Looking at who plays who, it should go to Vancouver
     
  7. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LA is the best team, but we're probably the team that's best at beating LA....
     
  8. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    With LAG beating Toronto yesterday, RSL are mathematically eliminated from 2014 Supporters' Shield. ;)
     
  9. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And yet a door to the CCL is still open
     
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  10. TheBiff

    TheBiff Member+

    Apr 8, 2011
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I'm glad to be honest. The whole "but but but we can still win every game and have everyone else lose all of theirs!!!" was starting to get really annoying. Honestly we lost our last real chance at the SS when we tied at San Jose
     
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  11. PattysCow

    PattysCow Member+

    Apr 4, 2010
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    You mean the second game of the season right? When we blew the lead in the last minute...then went on to do that another 4 games?
     
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  12. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    It is, in fact, the last door remaining: Winning the MLS Cup itself. ;)
     
  13. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Winning the MLS cup or finishing with the third best record in the regular season if L.A. Wins the cup no?
     
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  14. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #39 henryo, Oct 6, 2014
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2014
    Ah yes, you are right!

    On this note, even the 4th best record may be enough, if:
    • LAG win the SS
    • SEA finish 2nd, having already won the USOC
    • DCU finish 3rd overall, & win the MLS Cup
    Or:
    • SEA win the SS, on top of USOC
    • LAG finish 2nd
    • DCU finish 3rd overall, & win the MLS Cup
    Or:
    • Any other combinations, where the Top-3 teams qualify, leaving the remaining CCL spot for the 4th-place team. ;)
     
  15. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    STFU
     
  16. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (as of 10/6)

    EASTERN CONFERENCE
    1. DC UNITED
    52 PTS, 31 GP, 4 GR, 3 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/12 at Houston
    • 10/18 vs Chicago
    • 10/27 at Tauro FC (CCL - Panama)
    • 10/25 at Montreal

    2. New England Revolution
    48 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/11 at Montreal
    • 10/16 at Houston
    • 10/25 vs Toronto FC

    3. Sporting KC
    46 PTS, 31 GP, 4 GR, 3 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/10 vs Chicago
    • 10/18 at Philadelphia
    • 10/23 at Saprissa (CCL - Costa Rica)
    • 10/26 vs NYRB

    4. New York Red Bulls
    44 PTS, 31 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/11 vs Toronto FC
    • 10/19 vs Columbus
    • 10/22 vs Montreal (CCL)
    • 10/26 at Sporting KC

    5. Columbus Crew

    43 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 9/27 vs Montreal
    • 10/4 at New England
    • 10/11 at Philadelphia
    • 10/19 at New York
    • 10/26 vs Philadelphia

    6. Toronto FC
    40 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/8 vs Houston
    • 10/11 at New York
    • 10/18 vs Montreal
    • 10/25 at New England

    7. Philadelphia Union
    39 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/11 vs Columbus
    • 10/18 vs Sporting KC
    • 10/26 at Columbus

    8. Houston Dynamo
    36 PTS, 30 GP, 4 GR, 4 MLS
    • 10/8 at Toronto FC
    • 10/12 vs DC United
    • 10/16 vs New England
    • 10/24 at Chicago


    WESTERN CONFERENCE
    1. Seattle Sounders

    60 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/10 vs Vancouver
    • 10/19 at Los Angeles
    • 10/25 vs Los Angeles

    2. Los Angeles Galaxy
    60 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/12 at FC Dallas
    • 10/19 vs Seattle
    • 10/25 at Seattle

    3. Real Salt Lake
    49 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/11 vs San Jose
    • 10/17 at Portland
    • 10/22 vs Chivas USA

    4. FC Dallas
    48 PTS, 31 GP, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/12 vs Los Angeles
    • 10/18 at cRapids
    • 10/25 vs Portland
    5. Vancouver Whitecaps
    43 PTS, 31 PG, 3 GR, 3 MLS
    • 10/10 at Seattle
    • 10/18 at San Jose
    • 10/25 vs cRapids

    6. Portland Timbers
    42 PTS, 31 GP, 4 GR, 3 MLS, 1 CCL
    • 10/8 vs San Jose
    • 10/17 vs Real Salt Lake
    • 10/21 at CD Olimpia (CCL - Honduras)
    • 10/25 at FC Dallas


    OVERALL STANDINGS
    1. Seattle Sounders
    2. LA Galaxy
    3. DC United
    4. Real Salt Lake
    5. New England
    6. FC Dallas
    7. Sporting KC
    8. NYRB
    9. Columbus
    10. Vancouver
    11. Portland
    12. Toronto
    13. Philadelphia
    14. Houston
     
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  17. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Official Site:
    http://m.mlssoccer.com/news/article...onstructing-seattle-sounders-attack-other-wee

    Quote: ""First, a bit of housekeeping: It appears likely, though it has not been confirmed, that the weekend's results mean the LA Galaxy have joined the Seattle Sounders in qualifying for the 2015-16 edition of the CONCACAF Champions League:

    D.C. United look a very good bet to claim the third spot by virtue of winning the Eastern Conference, though we all know a four-point lead with three to play isn't exactly insurmountable.

    Assuming, then, that Seattle, LA and D.C. all punch their tickets by the end of October, the final spot would go to the MLS Cup winner. If one of those three teams wins MLS Cup, the spot will then go to the fourth-placed team in the overal regular-season standings.

    It's a scrap:

    [​IMG]

    Bear in mind that this is not yet official. CONCACAF and the USSF work in mysterious ways, to say nothing of MLS, so things could very well change."" - Unquote.​
     
  18. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thoughts
    EAST:
    • If DC United win this weekend they'll win the East. If they lose, I think the revitalized New England Revolution will take the top spot there. How crazy would that be? DC's schedule, coupled with the 4 point lead should win it, but I could see that team tanking to finish.
    • New England, regardless, has to be one of the most feared teams in the league. They are on a rampage. Jones has completely turned that team. As of now, they're my favorites to win the East.
    • On the flip side, look at the fall of Sporting KC. They should win their next two to right the ship and stay above the dreaded play-in match, but one slip and they are in a really bad spot. Especially considering they finish against New York.
    • The last two spots in the East are extremely unpredictable. One of the biggest matches is on Wednesday with TFC and Houston. If TFC gets 3 points in that one, the East will come down to the last match day. I think it finishes with New York and TFC finding their way in, but wouldn't be shocked if both of those guys also were on the outside looking in at the end.
    WEST
    • The gap between Seattle / LA and the rest of the league is getting bigger by the minute. Deservedly so, those guys have separated themselves. RSL can talk all they want about being deep, Seattle and LA have showed it. Who wins the league, MVP, and coach of the year could easily come down to that home and home series. I'm really hopeful, for a lot of reasons, that both win their games this weekend. Keeping the teams level on points while holding both 4th and 5th place back would make for one hell of a season finale.
    • The RSL schedule looks easy on paper, but it really isn't easy for RSL. Against these 3 opponents, we have a record of 1-3-2. That's right, we've lost 3 times to the worst teams in the west. RSL doesn't have it easy given how poorly we play against these teams this year.
    • It almost feels inevitable that we'll fall to 4th and play Vancouver. Maybe I'm just in shock still from that Chivas performance, but I look at the Dallas schedule and ours and see us going 1-1-1 and dallas going 2-1-0 and jumping us. Essentially, RSL has to win 2 of these last 3 to finish 3rd in my book at I really don't see that happening.
    • The battle for 5th is awesome. Portland will jump them over the weekend but I think Vancouver has the last laugh.
     
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  19. pcny

    pcny Member

    Sep 2, 2007
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    I wouldn't put it past them to award the last spot to NYCFC...some BS about keeping the spots balanced between East and West blah blah blah
     
  20. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Speaking of this, there could be some possible scenarios, where all 4 CCL spots for 2015-16 go to Western Conference teams in the next season:
    • Seattle: Already won USOC, almost certain of Top-2 in SS Table.
    • L.A.: Almost certain of Top-2 in SS Table, to either qualify as SS Winners, or take up the slot free up by Seattle should they win it.
    • SKC top the East and move to the West in 2015.
    • Any other Western Team winning the MLS Cup.
    • Western Teams occupying the Top-4 spots in SS Table.
    ;)
     
  21. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    except that SuKC seems to be in a free fall similar to RSL
     
  22. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is all crazy-talk.
     
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  23. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    :p

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Ugh. I am having a hard time deciding which I hated more, this guy or The Wiggles. So glad to be past the kid's music stage of parenthood.
     
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  25. El-ahrairah

    El-ahrairah Member+

    Sep 20, 2004
    Wanker County
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NOOOOO!!!!! Kill me now!!!!
     
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