TEOFILO GUTIERREZ news & comments (r)

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  1. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    no seas arrogante

    lo que pasara en brazil o no.....solo lo sabe pekerman, no lo sabe ud ,ni yo........lo que esta mal es maquillar datos a conveniencia de uno y cambiar el argumento siempre.....solo para quedar mas firme, su persecucion mamona contra un jugador de la seleccion, que fue muy importante en las elimiantorias

    si teo no es titular...ud no adivino nada, de manera
     
  2. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    es verdad si detesta tanto a teo , no se que le comenta tanto....por que si fuera tan malo no se pondria en la tarea de inventarse datos y modificar hechos sobre teo
     
  3. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    ps no es el primero que le dice, que ya esta clara su persecucion obsesiva contra teo...
     
  4. kromekote

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    May 22, 2012
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    IF ALL the players playing qualifiers were at their prime (including Falcao) Than you would have an argument but we have SO MANY KEY injuries/players fighting for starting positions in their clubs all of a sudden, Teo doesn't look so bad in Pekerman's formation. Again, not my choice BUT :Zuniga, Armero, Zapata, Falcao, Guarin, Valencia have all had some serious issues as of late. I don't want to throw more uncertainty either. I'm just saying don't be surprised if he starts.
     
  5. HomietheClown

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    Sep 4, 2010
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    True. But we are free to speculate and prognosticate based on what is happening in recent matches in his club and in yellow/blue/red/ . And I believe it is not much of a stretch to see someone else starting.
     
  6. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    le tiene tanto miedo al analisis del contexto???? que ni lo pudo citar......osea, toca ignorar para que ud tenga razon, que pekerman no llamo a teo por peticion de river contra serbia, y que contra paraguay , colombia se habia clasificado 3 dias antes, y donde no jugaron muchos titulares

    sea serio. payaso....ya ha cambiado el punto como 4 veces.....basta de sofismos
     
  7. HomietheClown

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    Sep 4, 2010
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    I don't understand what you are saying.
    This paragraph of yours seems to emphasize my point that there is no clear cut starters. Who said I would be surprised if Teo Starts? I said no one is a clear cut starter.
     
  8. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    You ignore the fact he was benched against Venezuela. Benched against Argentina. So on and so on.

    Important matches Pekerman really wanted him to sit for.

    This argument can go on and on but as I said you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
     
  9. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    And let's make things clear here. I like Teo and am proud when he scores goals just like any other Colombian.
    I just think there are better options and don't think he will start.
    If I am right I am right. IF I am wrong then kudos to all of you who think he will start.
     
  10. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    no sea mentiroso, no lo ignore , lo nombre en post anteriores y ud lo sabe....esto no es una competencia de sofismos, como ud cree que asi se trata argumentar.......solo que es diferente dos menos, debilita tu cuasi argumento.....

    y cuando se definio que los partidos importantes, fueron contra venezuela y argentina? y no en los que jugo teo?? igual dije anteriormente que teo no es igual de titular que james....pero una cosa es decir que pekerman no le tiene confianza

    ya dije el problema no es de no estar de acuerdo...es que ud llega aca con sofismo, datos falsos, verdades a medias....a darlas como hecho .........para valorar puntos.....

    espero que en su discurso engañoso (al mejor estilo de un troll)....no me haga volver a repetir las cosas
     
  11. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    If you think I am trolling then just ignore me. Simple as that. I just call it as I see it as I do in every thread.
     
  12. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    Colombia
    ya se le dijo el problema......esto no es una competencia de predecir.....lo que fastidia es su anti teo propaganda...donde usa datos falsos, arregaldos, maquillados y demas, busca cualquier error argumentativo del interlocutor para cambiar el punto.................es una manera de discutir de troll.
     
  13. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ps no invente datos y pare con sofismos a la hora de debatir....que para ud pareciera que las discusiones las gana el que argumente mejor, sin importar las pruebas o no.
     
  14. HomietheClown

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    Sep 4, 2010
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    You came into this thread arguing. You came into this thread looking to compete.
    All I did was talk to someone who is a River Plate fan and say he was preaching to the choir and that his inconsistency and inefficiency for river was one reason I don't believe he should start.
    You are something else. :thumbsup: :ROFLMAO:
     
  15. pepinointer

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    no esta mal argumentar y menos en un foro....lo que si esta mal, es alargar una discusion sin fundamento ni pruebas.......siempre cambiando el punto, cada vez que a uno le derriben un argumento........aportando datos falsos, hechos a conveniencia....cuando uno tiene la presuncion de buena fe del otro forista.
     
  16. HomietheClown

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    Sep 4, 2010
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    My propaganda is just observations. Just as the River Plate fan's propaganda was his observations.

    Give it a rest man.
     
  17. HomietheClown

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    Sep 4, 2010
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    You don't know how to Focus Pepino. The focal point I have mentioned multiple times is I don't believe teo will start.
    You keep on sweeping that under the rug as if it were a useless competition but that is what the whole focus is in my last few posts.
    Can he start? Yes. Will he start? I don't believe he will. If you think he will then just say so.
    That is the focus.
     
  18. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    las observaciones ya son obsesivas y se hacen de mala fe, al momento que se usan datos maquillados..las hace cada vez que tiene oportunidad....
     
  19. HomietheClown

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    Well you seem to ignore the fact he is not efficient at River. So you are the one who may be taking things out of context and not looking at current data relevant to the conversation.
     
  20. pepinointer

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    Colombia
    #2120 pepinointer, Apr 13, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2014
    eso es falso......ud ha cambiado muchas veces el punto..
    1.ud comenzo diciendo que el deberia salir de la titular por que se come goles...(se le explica que parece que hay mas juadores con ese mal)
    2. que teo solo ha rendido de local......se mostro que sus numeros en relacion a minutos jugados durante eliminatorias son mas que rescatables
    3. que pekerman no le tiene confianza
    4. ahora que ud cree que no es titular

    todo consecuencia de su obsesiva persecusion malintencionada contra un jugador de la seleccion colombia..no es la primera vez que alarga un hilo por su arrogancia argumenativa
     
  21. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    Nope. You came into the thread and changed the points and argued on behalf of Teo when there was no argument at all.

    My overall point was clear from the get go and still is.
     
  22. pepinointer

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    Millonarios Bogota
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    #2122 pepinointer, Apr 13, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2014
    buenisimo vuelves a cambiar el punto.....a seguir con la antipropaganda obsesiva :)

    1. lo he dicho cuando ha jugado mal......
    2. esta temporada esta jugando muy bien.....varias asistencias y 5 goles (los ultimso dos seguidos)...ha participado en varios goles de river
    3. desafortunadamente a pekerman ha parecido no importarle lo que teo hace con sus clubes desde las epocas de junior...por eso no lo tengo en consideracion
     
  23. pepinointer

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    Mar 12, 2007
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    Millonarios Bogota
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    por algo me cita incompleto, le escribi claro por que puntos ha pasado su argumento, de hecho el punto de la titularidad en el mundial, lo propuso la intervencion de kromokote.........yo me pongo en la tarea por lo menos de desvirtuar sus verdades a medias, o mentiras repetititvas......por lo menos me pongo en la tarea de verificar los datos.....a los que no les hago trampa (como decir que no hay que mirar el contexto)

    ud es malintencionado.....te entiendo tu mal dia, te da rabia que teo mettio gol y haya provocado un penal y una expulsion hoy
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    1) I said one of the reasons is his inefficiency. That is related to his club which was the context originally until you trolled and came in and spin it into the National team debate.
    2) I did not say he only played well at home. I said he plays well in Barranquilla and is not trusted on the road and in neutral grounds. So you are wrong again.
    3) I did say that and that was related to most recent Road matches and neutral site matches.
    4) That was my main point.
     
  25. HomietheClown

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    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
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    You misrepresented my points and did not even understand the argument. You still don't.
     

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