Ooooh. Man. Don't even start. My only problem with "The Old 300" is that most of the web pages that I have read on this reference usually say the same thing: "The "Old 300" were the first permanent Anglo-American settlers in Texas." or "the first Anglo-American settlers" It's historically correct, Austin-linked,and doesn't offend me. But. To me it gives the impression that the supporter group is made up exclusively of Anglos. I don't know. 6th Street/Calle 6 lends itself to a universality............of drunkeness.
Calle 6 is good because it encompasses the city/music scene etc. Old 300 has that historic aspect to it that is appealing, kind of like the Sons of Ben thing. As chalupin said though, in some ways it seems kind of devisive representing primarily Anglo settlers and then everything that entails leading up to the war. Personally I'd rather it be pronounced "Calle Six" as that's how most people are going to read it.
Which is why my inclination is to wait a while before we settle on anything. I'm more than happy to be open to everyone. I definitely want a supporters group to be open to all. But looking around Mother Egan's last Wednesday night... it seemed pretty durn white! In other words, if the supporters group ends up all Anglos, well, then, going with an English name would be quite appropriate. In fact, since my Spanish amounts to Futbol/Menu Spanish, I feel a little uneasy about adopting Calle 6, for a reason that mirrors yours -- it gives the impression that the supporter group is made up exclusively of Hispanics. Now, I'm not suggesting that I'm going to be stubborn about it or anything. I do like the name Calle 6. Just pointing out that the 'impression' thing goes both ways. I like that you're trying to come up with something that will be inclusive, but I don't think 6th Street/Calle 6 is simple enough. The Montreal Impact chose their name because it was bilingual (English/French). Maybe we can come up with a name that's identical in both languages?
But. As I've opined 6th Street/Calle 6 has the feasibility of being bilingual. But. It doesn't have to be exclusively Calle 6. It can be something that sounds cool in both languages. Or, heck, even just in English, 6th Street Hooligans, Crew, Revellers, Drunks, Firm, etc. sounds to me better than Old 300. 6th St./Calle 6 is bilingual and that's the way Austin's infamous is known at least in my parts. As far as easily translatable either way: The 6th Street Firm - Barra de la Calle 6 The 6th Street Revellers - Borrachos de la Calle 6 The 6th Street Crew - Hincha de la Calle 6 I am sorry about my 6th street love. LOL. But. Really. Whenever I go to Austin with friends, all the time they want to start at 6th St and wander about. Tell people in RGV about Barton Springs and you will draw blanks. Tell people in RGV about 6th Street and they will knowingly smile ("Party!"). For better or worse, that's Austin's more known side. Ah. Well. A work in progress.
It may be easily translatable... but it's not identical. I think the name would be most effective if the words were exactly the same in both languages. Which is why I used Impact as an example for Montreal. No translation needed, the word is identical in both languages. Maybe part of the problem is that there aren't many words that are useful to us that are identical in both languages? ...of course, at this point, there's Spanglish, and now we're getting into something that's way outside my area of expertise. And thinking about it, that might explain why we're not connecting on this issue. When I think about what I've heard of Spanglish and what little I understand of it, the same word can be said in either Spanish or English, depending on circumstance, speaker, etc. (Sorry, my analytical nature is showing) Man, this is getting into territory that would be better to hash out verbally than trying to make sense of it in this medium. ...and as to 6th Street -- I've had my fill of it when I was younger. So that's very likely another way that we don't connect! Nevertheless, 6th Street is an icon, no two ways about it.
Yeah. You are right. There are some words in English and Spanish that don't need translation. In the end, even Spanish-speakers know what "Austin" and "6th Street" mean. Sort of like "ham and eggs" or "hamburger." You don't need to know English to know what it is. Texan--Austin Mexican-Sí,Sí Texan--6th Street Mexican--Sí,Sí,Sí! Beer!Sí!Sí! Muy bueno! Muy bueno! Does "beer" qualify? VC...we are probably the same age. LOL. I am 38. Aside from UT, Longhorns, and the Capitol, 6th Street is pretty well known.
For some reason the words "Montezuma's revenge" keep crossing my mind. I think it's just because of what I ate for lunch though. Carry on.
Sweet. It even rhymes in Spanish. As to the Old 300. I understand some people might be against, even though it may not make a lot of logical sense: Anglo-Americans, Hispano-Americans, makes no difference since the Old 300 became Mexicans and joined the Catholic church. No point in causing arguments at this early point, I just thought it sounded cool, but we can put it to rest.
O.K. Now you're starting to get all cheesy. Man you're old. J/K. In addition to 6th Street/ Calle 6 & Old 300, perhaps the name could also reference to SXSW or Austin City Limits? After all this is the Live Music Capitol of the World.
Anyone remember Classi-Fido, the Statesman mascot at the Lonestars games? I don't know why your SRV costume reminded me of that.
Can you play "Cold Shot" or "Crossfire" on the sidelines? Waterloo Drummers? I don't know. The name Waterloo reminds me too much of Napolean. Great! Now I feel like going to Waterloo Ice House to grab a "hamburger" & "beer". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec How about The Aztex Empire?
Yeah, I contemplated Waterloo something. Though it suggests a nice logo... Waterloo Records could get mad at us for using it, and I think there are a few too many business establishments that have used that name. We should have something relatively unique. Or at least, that's what I think.
You know. Looking into it further. Waterloo. Music. Austin. Original name of Region. Hmmmmmm......KAW!
You are right. In the spirit of Austin-ite individuality and originality. Hmmmmm...... At least I like that shield for a supporter group.
I highly doubt that the supporters would call themselves The Weirdos (let alone The Waterloo Weirdos)