Stadium Porn: The Portlandia Edition

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Yoshou, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny.. Because when my wife complains that I don't answer the phone when she calls, I use that my pockets muffle my ringtone so I didn't hear it. ;)
     
  2. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    One of my biggest pet peeves is when my family members (wife) doesn't answer the MOBILE phone that we pay so much for. Its mobile for a reason. ;)
    Just answer the phone...unless you are pooping. I don't want that.

    Not talking about when they are at work. Just when I know they shouldn't be otherwise engaged.
     
  3. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately, I encountered a guy who didn't take your advice. I walked in to a men's room and there was a guy washing his hands and another guy in a stall talking. I assumed they were talking with each other, but the hand-washer walked out. Seems the guy was taking a (really loud) dump while giving tech support over the phone...

    "OK, on the left side there's a pull-down menu and BRAAAAAAAAP! so you want to click on the second one and BRAAAAAAAAP! and then you'll see another screen, and ..."

    Apparently the guy was unfamiliar with the phrase "let me call you back in a few minutes."
     
  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    In the days before mobile phones, lots of fancy hotels included a phone line in the bathroom, within reach of the toilet, so business travelers could continue working while relieving themselves. Doubtless many still do.
     
  5. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
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    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #656 firefan2001, Mar 22, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2019
    Rough guess 3,554 additional seats (24,698), I believe they said 5k. Was the number lowered?


    Edit: Original articles says 4K plus luxury suites.
     
  7. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remembered Golub saying it was low 25,000. They've always maintained 4k seats were added. Eyeball test may not indicate changes elsewhere in the stadium.
     
  8. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006

    The original plan had event space above the three tiers. That may be the confusion. By the time the plan was submitted to the city, that tierwas gone.

    The architect is still saying they added 4K ( see post #658 )
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, but if you count the new seats it's around 3,500. Where are the the other 500?
     
  10. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Could some of them could be in these areas?
    portland.PNG
     
  11. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, but while I know SCUSA stands for Soccer City USA, I will never be able to unsee that they are apologizing to Portland in Italian. ;)
     
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  12. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #664 NashSC, Mar 27, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
    Does it have to be "seats"?
    Are standing room areas not often counted as stadium capacity? I know they do at MBS in Atlanta. I agree the structure to the right of the new tiers doesn't appear to be able to be used during games (assuming it is stairs/elevators)...no windows or balconies. The area on the left appears to be balconies that could easily house standing room sections. It is 3 or 4 tiers of decks. It appears this could easily hold several hundred.
     
  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    SRO isn't counted in the stadium capacity and MBS dosen't count SRO in their capacity. Capacity (seated) is 42,500 and with SRO they could get additional 2,500.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_United_FC
     
  15. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    #666 NashSC, Mar 27, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2019
    I don't think this is a hard fast rule across all stadiums (could be wrong). Also, you are right about MBS. I just knew they count the SRO in their attendance numbers.
    Seems very likely the numbers Portland FO have been giving could include SRO sections. Have they specifically stated that they don't include any SRO?
    If you are coming up 500 "seats" short it seems there could be multiple places these people could be accounted for.
    So does San Jose not count their SRO sections as part of their 18k capacity? I was thinking a very large portion of the seats behind one goal (non bar side) are standing sections.
     
  16. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the supporters section, so yes it's counted as capacity, they are safe standing seats. Just as the sections in LA, Orlando and Minnesota
     
  17. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did the remodel include safe standing? I seem to remember that TA opposed the introduction of safe standing because the FO would only include it if TA gave up some of their end of the stadium.
     
  18. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know. I didn't hear anything about safe standing seating in the remodel. If they did, I believe the only place they could do that it would be on the scoreboard side of the stadium.
     
  19. flange

    flange Member

    Jul 15, 2014
    Portland, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't believe so. TA is where they'd do that, obviously, and I don't think TA seating saw any changes.
     
  20. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
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    Portland Timbers
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    United States
  21. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The story goes that safe standing would be in the lower 100 sections, but the upper 200 level TA would go from General Seating to assigned seating. TA declined as they still wanted it all to be General Seating.
     
  22. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Using the SCUSA as a guide, you can tell that the sections are 22 seats wide (the A is very helpful with this). You can then go for one of the more oblique sections to gather that the bottom 2 are 9 rows deep, and the top one is 5 rows deep. There are 7 full size sections, and if you assume the two ends are each half size, that makes 8.

    9+9+5 -> 23
    23*22*8 -> 4048
     
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  23. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I was going to sit down and do this after work.

    Thanks for saving me the time. Well done.
     
  24. Cliveworshipper

    Cliveworshipper Member+

    Dec 3, 2006
    [​IMG] Good work.

    Keep in mind that each tier has “bump-outs “ evident that reduce seating by two rows. They appear to be for either handicap or press box purposes.

    For example, 0n the Turner construction web cam, the SCUSA level shows them to the left of the “S” , the top of the “U” and the right of the “A”.

    Not all seats are lost, but it probably brings it down to the 4K level.
     

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