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Main urban planning issue is that concrete is non permeable and can therefore wreak havoc on delicate drainage/water runoff dynamics in developed areas where large amounts of water are redirected elsewhere. .

For example, key factor in severity of Houston flooding was the extremely high percentage of concreted urban sprawl they have allowed.

 

I’m not sure about Rome but Florence had a seismic problem when trying to build. At least they did when I was there but I doubt much has changed. Supposedly the heavier a structure, the worse it is for the ground during an earthquake. At least that is what the engineers and architects and some ’geometri’ told me. Whether it was true or not, I wouldn’t know. I wanted to use my Home Depot plywood many times and wasn’t allowed by the catastali , belle arti , comune etc.

 

That's certainly true in Italy about structural steel/concrete. Changing here in the US south as well due to increased "hurricane proofing".

I think though the "concrete" that was a flashpoint in negotiations for the stadium was the actual cubic meters of absorbent green ground to be concreted and not structural.

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ummm, the key factor in the severity of Houston was the fact it got 60 inches of rain in 24 hours, the most single day rainfall for any city in the history of the US. Regardless of how much concrete they have, there was going to be massive flooding.

 

Yes, it was record rainfall.

However, I was talking about urban planning which plans for drastic situations (or, better, perhaps should).

So, umm, that Houston has far above the average concrete per meter even for an American city -- you know, the prime factor that inhibits urban drainage-- could have played a teeny part then in inhibiting that runoff..

With seemingly everywhere in the world near a coast setting "record" after "record" for rainfall/ powerful storms the past decade, probably no reason to be concerned with diminishing drainage though.

 

A Stadium may have more relaxed building codes that contractors will have to follow. The closer you get to the historical part of the city , the less control you will have on the plans. Everybody and their mother will come forth with a title telling you what you should or shouldn’t do. I’m not sure how many mafiosi are in Roma Capitale but with their help and influence or threats, things may get built sooner. Depending on which one is getting an expensive kickback. I dealt with the misericordia in Florence and they were the biggest crooks in all of Tuscany. Sad that they hide behind religion to effect everyone and everything.

 

Just when you thought it was over... in typical Italian fashion it's another 2 months until they get the 'next round' of approval. After that it will be 6 more months for the guy with the official seal to actually stamp it. 2 more months for the ink to dry before some other authority has a hearing on it... Cristian Totti will retire and they will still be waiting on the 'final' approval.

http://www.forzaroma.info/rassegna-...i-della-conferenza-liter-durera-altri-2-mesi/

 

Everyone needs a kickback......

 

If nothing else, the Pallotta tirade when he finally throws in the towel will be solid gold. Italy can't get out of their own way.

 

He's going full Joe Pesci when it happens

 

These steps which follow the approval of the project are essential administrative ones.

It was reported widely today that they will take three months to complete, enabling work to begin on site hopefully in April, as Baldissoni said he expects.

The construction period is scheduled to last for 2.5 years, so all being well it will be opened in time for the start of 2020/21.

 

Oh my, who would have guessed, another delay. Anybody still think this stadium gets built?

http://www.forzaroma.info/rassegna-stampa/il-tempo/altro-stop-per-lo-stadio-e-il-dossier-non-parte/

 

I think the Reggio -Messina bridge will be built before this place...

 

Gotta love it, the Minister of Sport is "optimistic" they'll lay the first stone in 2018. Translation; no concrete evidence but I'm hoping like hell they are allowed to break ground.

http://www.forzaroma.info/news-as-r...-lotti-ottimista-sulla-prima-pietra-nel-2018/

In other news Constantine is still waiting for approval to build his much anticipated Arch.

 

You can't make this stuff up, now it's back to the bridge again... only in Italy.

http://www.forzaroma.info/news-as-r...ario-il-ponte-di-traiano-trovi-unalternativa/

 

Shockingly they are now saying the "administrative" process is not completed meaning that they probably won't break ground until the end of the year or early 2019.

Probably closer to 2029 than 2019.

http://www.forzaroma.info/news-as-r...-linizio-dei-lavori-puo-slittare-a-fine-2018/

 

With VR it is already built !

 

Seems fun, graphics are ass though. Looks like a PS2 game.

 

Jim Pallotta warns #ASRoma need the #StadioDellaRoma approval by June 30 or "we won't be here" - we’ve spent well over €60m, you just can’t keep spending money like that when you’re not getting the returns". https://t.co/YkmbaE285p pic.twitter.com/lfOXj4ZzW7

— Football Italia (@footballitalia) April 10, 2018

 

In Italia si dice aspetta e spera! Or rather, keep waiting and dreaming James! I’m surprised he didn’t forsee this when he bought the club.

 

Great, new owner. If he sells Roma will be a mid table team for years to come.

 

I'm not sure JP understood the Italian culture or political system. Italian-Americans are very different than Italians in so many ways.

 

Yeah that’s true. Especially when it comes to getting things done both in business and construction.