St. Louis in the USL

Discussion in 'St Louis FC' started by Alistair Fannell, Aug 22, 2013.

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St. Louis

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  1. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's seems like Tony Glavin has always been more on the conservative when it came to finances and risk. So I would think that if they do move up, it won't be till 2015. But this is the USL, so you never know what will happen. I'm all for waiting till they have everything worked out and their ducks in a row.

    Also, I hope they plan on having a separate front office from the indoor team. They might be tempted to use one sales team (ie tickets and sponsorship) for both team. But from past teams that have tried to do this, it just doesn't work. You either sell one team really well and the other poorly or both poorly.
     
  2. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    You know with this upcoming Friendly match at Busch Stadium you wonder if the owner would end up following the Yankee's and trying to become the 24th team in the MLS. In truth should invest on the USL Pro team.
     
  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    THE NPSL COMES TO ST. LOUIS

    November 15, 2013

    The National Premier Soccer League (NPSL) is proud to announce that FC
    Bordo Saint Louis has joined the league as an expansion team. Saint Louis
    will begin play in the Central Conference of the Midwest Region in 2014.

    "We're looking forward to playing NPSL soccer in St. Louis in 2014," NPSL
    Commissioner Michael Hitchcock commented. "St. Louis is one of the
    original soccer hotbeds that was famous for their great players and
    community-based clubs. Bordo St. Louis returns high level soccer and a
    community-based club to the great soccer city of St. Louis."

    The Central Conference already includes Eau Claire Aris FC, Madison 56ers,
    Milwaukee Bavarians, Minnesota Twin Stars, and the Quad City Eagles.

    Bordo Saint Louis is led by General Manager Sanjin Zigic, Head Coach Izet
    Subasic, Sports Director Boban Simovic and Sales Development Manager
    Taylor Madden.

    Zigic will handle the day-to-day operations of the club, serving as the
    club’s main representative. Subasic and Simovic both bring substantial
    experience as players in the former Yugoslavia, while Madden brings
    experience in player representation and fundraising to the club.

    "Starting such an important project is a very proud moment for us all,"
    stated Zigic. "We plan to build a club that our city will be proud of.”

    The club's mission is to provide local athletes with national exposure as
    well as provide soccer enthusiasts with regular live soccer entertainment.
    The club is committed to building itself into a permanent part of the
    sports scene in a city that has a proud soccer culture.

    Bordo's long-term vision is to establish a framework for bringing
    professional soccer back to the city of St. Louis.

    The club can be found on Twitter @FCBordoSTL or on Facebook at
    http://www.facebook.com/FCBordoSTL.

    Respectfully,

    Gary L. Moody Jr., M.Ed.
    International Soccer Network, LLC
    330-205-2446
     
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  4. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes! The NPSL to St Louis! That can only mean in a couple of years the All Conquering NASL team is coming! No more USL Pro in St Louis, who needs them!? The NASL is the future of American Soccer!!!

    (Yeah, I'm trying to step all over Alistair Fannell's toes with this)
     
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  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When there is pro/rel with the NASL, all those organizations that are just sandbagging it - having owners worth $20M who opt to not pay players and compete in a league where they can play 8 regular season games and be champions - will be totally ready to be promoted.
     
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  6. penske

    penske Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    NYC
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol, you mean a team with a $50k budget in STL won't win?

    Reality is there needs to be two levels between the NPSL and NASL. One of those levels could be national (or two divisions) and the 2nd level needs to have at least two regions (if not more). Only possible way a pyramid between the NASL and NPSL could work. The lower level could follow a shorter schedule but not the level directly below the NASL. One level can be partially covered with reserve teams but they're far away from filling the other 40+ spots.
     
  7. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    LOL! Well all I can say this is good for St. Louis. The question is which pro soccer League team will land is St. Louis, USL Pro, NASL or MLS.
     
  8. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Right now the only hope for St. Louis in getting a pro soccer team is from the USL Pro League.
     
  9. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tony Glavin has been saying for years he trying to move up the St.Louis Lions. i believe it when i see it.
     
  10. ladieckhaus

    ladieckhaus New Member

    Oct 30, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Who knows maybe with the NPSL team in place, Glavin might more easilty move the Lions up to a USL Pro side. Must admit that I like seeing another team, but damn someone needs to try and get some good money together to put up a pro side. If the STL area is able to support this many different leagues and teams from the PDL, NPSL, and the MISL, then one would assume that there is enough for a solid pro side even if it is USL.
     
  11. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Heck there's now enough money to provide an NASL team.
     
  12. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
  13. ladieckhaus

    ladieckhaus New Member

    Oct 30, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  14. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was quick.

    Someone has to be worth $20M for starters. Got that? That's just to get a seat at the table. Expensive to run. Who's proving this "now enough money?"
     
  16. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    You haven't followed St.Louis Soccer. They were just awarded and NPSL, they have a PDL and an Indoor Soccer team. If they wanted to they could come together and get an NASL team.
     
  17. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kenn, go easy on poor Alistair
     
  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesus, you see, hear and read what you want to believe, don't you? If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd have a hell of a Christmas.

    First, "awarded" an NPSL franchise. Lah tee freaking dah. You can get one in a vending machine. It costs almost no money to run an NPSL franchise, and having one does not mean you're NASL-ready.

    There's a reason the PDL team is in the PDL. And Andrew Haines ain't NASL-ready, either. Those three organizations could all pool all of the money they have and there still wouldn't be "enough money now for an NASL team" because...wait for it..."Each team must have and designate one principal owner that owns at least 35% of the team and has authority to bind the team. Such principal owner must have an individual net worth of at least twenty million US dollars exclusive of the value of his/her ownership in the league or team."

    English...do you read it?

    You are so hell-bent on there being a professional outdoor soccer team in St. Louis that you will latch onto any nugget that seems to suggest the possibility of that, you will ignore reality in search of the ability to feel like it's imminent and you have zero idea what you're talking about when it comes to what it takes to do this.

    You don't know. You think you know...but you just...don't....know.
     
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  19. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Never go soft on stupid
     
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  20. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    HEY GO JUMP IN A LAKE WONKER!!
     
  21. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh! Oh, he burned you good! *sarcasm*
     
  22. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Do you know a person that has 20 million dollars to get 2 division team in St.Louis other than Tony Glavin, Andrew Haines owner of the Ambush or the owners of FC Bordo STL? Is Jeff Cooper coming back with backers again? Any way I'm prepared to go to Family Arena tonight to support our newest team St. Louis Ambush. It's not USL Pro, NASL or MLS but it's pro soccer, even though it's indoor.
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, death, where is thy sting?

    You know I'm right. Everybody knows I'm right.
     
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  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not the point. The point is those people don't have $20 million. Collectively. And one of them has to, or you can't have a Division II team in this country. Period. Full stop.

    It doesn't matter if no one else does. Because those people don't.

    Stop acting as if they do.

    And that's fine. Just stop with the "We're getting a team, we're getting a team, this guy can do it, it's going to happen, here's how" and the other delusional nonsense you spout.
     
  25. Sporting Real

    Sporting Real Member+

    Jun 29, 2011
    Kansas City
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, none of them for starters. Maybe Albert Pujols? He still lives there sometimes doesn't he? Maybe convince Rush Limbaugh soccer is a better investment than when he attempted to buy into the Rams? Crap, you're sucking me into the internet vortex Alistair! Curse you, I have better things to do with my time then try and use logic to convince you to reason with a sense of rationality. Though you do make me laugh, so I keep coming back for more
     

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