Squad Barometer - Forwards Select 2

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by BorisG, Jul 5, 2017.

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Forwards - Select 2

Poll closed Jul 5, 2018.
  1. Werner

    29 vote(s)
    93.5%
  2. Stindl

    9 vote(s)
    29.0%
  3. Gomez

    13 vote(s)
    41.9%
  4. Wagner

    4 vote(s)
    12.9%
  5. Kruse

    2 vote(s)
    6.5%
  6. Volland

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  7. Selke

    1 vote(s)
    3.2%
  8. Platte

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Hopefully the striker development situation improves in the next 2-5 years. Right now I think countries like Switzerland and Czech Republic have been doing a better job than Germany in this aspect.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    our issue is clear for the 2020 EC these are the only options.
    Werner, Selke, Volland, Stindl, Petersen, Kruse (if Low is gone), Uth, Ginczek, Fullkrug

    the other German strikers in 1BL are unlikely between not good enough for the NT or too early for them. All the better options really are 2-5 years away, unless one of the kids has a crazy season in 2019-2020 in 1BL. They are all more likely for the 2022 WC, so post 2020 EC.
     
  3. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Very disappointing to see as Werner and Selke were the last strikers to emerge and that first happened like 4 seasons ago. Tough to tell if anyone new will stand out this season. My criteria for a youngster to be notable is they must score at least 5+ goals in 1BL or 8-10+ goals in 2BL.
     
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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    would be nice to see Eckert, J.Eggestein, and Knoll score 5 and more in the league.

    as for 2BL, get the feeling Serra seems the likeliest to hit 8 and more given that he's started like every game this season. The other strikers are mostly sub ones or part of the reserve teams there in RL. Arp besides only being 18 is part of a Hamburg team that barely creates anything, which will make it hard to score too many. In the end,a lot of games, it feels like the striker's only job there is to draw defenders for others to score and create space for others, basically being a nuisance. And then Kruger basically being back almost Nov and the coach saying he will ease him through that he won't rush him. Makes him a doubt to score too many, likely to be initially on a sub player.

    what's interesting about J.Eggestein this season.Bremen top scorers this season for all competition.
    1-Kruse 3 goals, playing 678 minutes
    2-M.Eggestein 3 goals, playing 720 minutes
    3-J,Eggestein 2 goals, playing 45 minutes
    4-Osako 2 goals, playing 585 minutes
    5-Klaassen 2 goals playing 719 minutes

    Only 45 minutes played and already tied in 2nd place. Had he played 585-720 minutes like the other. What's the likelihood he would be top scorer?

    Although he's not in competition withe either Klaassen nor his bro M,Eggestein. How long before he potentially displaces Osako?
     
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  5. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think it’s difficult for young strikers when ur team only play with one starting striker. And u have a veteran striker who is 26-28 years old and have 4-6 years ahead

    The veteran striker is proven, makes it even more difficult for young strikers.

    Basically like Ter Stegen situation in NT when Neuer were ahead 3 years ago, he doesn’t really have his chance
     
  6. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Hopefully Eggestein gets more substantial playing time as the season progresses. His interview with the DFB is pretty informative. If he ends up moving on to another club at seasons end then club management and coaching only have themselves to blame.
     
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  7. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany

    Biggest issue with Jojo Eggestein is that Max Kruse is ahead of him. And they don’t have CL or EL, so no need for big rotation
     
  8. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Serra, J.Eggestein, Arp and Knöll look like the next group to focus on. Skeptical about Teuchert because of his serious injury and his club situation. Not sure what the outlook for D.Otto will be. Doesn't seem like a chance to move up at Hoffenheim right now. And who knows what their next coach will be planning when Nagelsmann leaves next season.
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    D.Otto needs a 2BL loan in Winter. If Hoff were going to fixate on Joelinton (who isn't that great) and also on another eh player in Beldofil, then they really should have sent Otto on a 1 year loan. Instead of being Hoff's 5th striker....

    doesn't help that Hoff have been mediocre this season so even less likely to give Otto chances unless injuries happen to the 4 other guys.
     
  10. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Fcuk you Schalke for ruining Mark Uth. I've followed this guy since he played for Friesland giants Heerenveen and then did a good job at Hoffenheim after. But he is now doing very poorly for this crap club and looks like he'll never be nominated for the NT again.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so your saying Kruger was right to jump ship?;)

    I think it's more Tedesco who is ruining strikers.
     
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  12. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Final Mark Uth tribute. Sad that his international career had to begin and end in such shambolic conditions. Probably won't be posting anything related to him again after



     
  13. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
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  14. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    German strikers need to avoid Schalke. Cedric Teuchert could be another one ruined by those Ruhr region mining hicks.
     
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  15. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Get Uth out of Gelsenkirchen

     
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  16. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Heinz Mörschel needs to play more but looks like he has decent potential. Also eligible for the Dominican Republic through his mother, and it's also where he was born.
     
  17. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    http://bundesligafanatic.com/20181021/die-mannschaft-and-the-struggle-to-find-a-german-striker/

    Exactly the problem with our strikers now

    Germany don't lack strikers, they are lacking certain element or qualities up front
     
  18. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Uth and Ducksch still scoreless. Selke remains a bench player and hasn't scored yet either
     
  19. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Wonder if Ducksch is basically just the next Terodde. Someone who only does well in 2BL. And when they get a chance on the first division they get stuck on garbage relegation fodder clubs. Which means they don't get good quality overall and end up going back down again.
     
  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    While other crappy strikers like Lasogga are stuck being a bench option at HSV and continues to slip further off the 2BL radar. Christian Titz doesn't rate him
     
  21. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Dennis Srbeny may have been a decent pro if he went the route of 3BL to 2BL and prove his way into the first division. But instead he's wasting away doing nothing in the English Championship. Probably on his way to becoming the next garbage striker like Nick Proschwitz and Philipp Hofmann
     
  22. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
  23. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    If Ducksch doesn't finish the season with at least 5 goals then I think he needs to be written off. I might even lower the requirements to at least 3-4 goals since his team is so bad.
     
  24. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Ducksch is now benched by Düsseldorf
     
  25. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Mark Uth now scoreless in 9 match days to begin the season

    Timo Werner held scoreless again today. His 4 goals this season were braces against Nürnberg and Hannover
     

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