Spector Wonderland - The West Ham Revelation

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  1. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 11, 2006
    The other Jonathan Spector thread had 1. too many posts and 2. remnants of the old Spector legacy as a defender instead of at his new position, central midfielder.

    With his performance against Manchester United - 2 goals, 4 or 5 stunning runs and against Sunderland, two great turns and a near goal, I think he deserves a new thread.

    Thanks to YankatOxford for the link of highlights:

    http://watchsocceronline.blogspot.com/search/label/Jonathan Spector
     
  2. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First page!

    I think Specs deserves acclaim for how long he's worked and suffered through slings and arrows getting to this point. I hope this is just the start of a stellar pro career as a midfielder. That said, he needs to keep producing. I'm sure he knows better than any of us can that it's day-by-day, game-by-game to keep his starting spot and produce.

    It would be great if 2ndstarright could stop by and give us some insight on the switch and how long this has been brewing.
     
  3. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spector is a pro. No matter what the position or circumstances he is always giving it 100%. He will succeed in the long run.
     
  4. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm ok with the idea of starting a new Spector thread as a way of marking the positional switch. With the following lame bureaucratic conditions as a caveat, of course:

    1. We're letting threads go to around 1000 posts these days, and nearly all threads will run their natural course in this manner. Unless, of course,
    2. there's a significant shift in a player's career that us mods deem worthy of a thread refresh.

    This way we won't be subject to thread renewals that happen willy-nilly. If we stick to these criteria it's easier to keep things tightly organized around here and still keep the discussion flowing nicely, allowing for flexibility when out of the ordinary situations such as this one occur. In short, in most cases we should still opt for thread continuity wherever possible.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, those who have been saying Spector's best spot was CM must feel pretty good about now.

    Hope he keeps it up.
     
  6. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 11, 2006
    The reaper has spoken.

    If I am looking at the table and the teams, I don't think West Ham is relegation material. They are one win away from at least tying for bottom of the table.

    From my point of view, teams that will get relegated are looking like:

    1. Fulham
    2. Wigan
    3. Wolves

    with maybe blackpool fading.
     
  7. andypalmer

    andypalmer Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Baltimore
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't see Fulham getting relegated.

    1. Dembele is back in a week or so
    2. Zamora will be back in February
    3. MAF will give Hughes at least 15M-20M to spend in January (unlike the owners of the other clubs in question, he's sitting on over 1B GBP).
     
  8. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't provoke Sam, or he'll turn a Spector thread into one bashing Mark Hughes...
     
  9. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    i disagree with fulham and wolves, but i agree with wigan. I think blackpool will inevidably get back down there to round it up. do NOT be surprised to see Newcastle back down there again this year. Any stability at that club has just been shattered by Ashley. That leaves a locker room in tatters.

    I think Wolves have the strength to stay up if they get a few results, they havent been playing badly. Its like West Brom their last few times up, they played well they looked like they belonged. If they keep this play up i think theyll stay up too

    i think itll be blackpool, wigan, and newcastle. Things were looking good for the Toon, but what just happend was a game changer not easily recovered from.
     
  10. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    This thread title would be ironic if he crashed and burned after his string of good matches :p
     
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  11. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    bigsoccer moderator? look at you all grown up :p

    congrats man
     
  12. Hatrick

    Hatrick Member

    why the rain? haven't seen a positive comment on specs from you. wut wit da hate, seriously?
     
  13. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    I wasn't hating. I said it would be ironic IF. I never said he's not going to continue to play well.
     
  14. Hatrick

    Hatrick Member

    that would make no news really...after all those adu's threads since hmm...almost a decade ago :D
     
  15. alky13

    alky13 New Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Manchester/NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/american-exports-spector-wants-defined-role

    This article pretty much talks about how J Specs is a little fearful of becoming the "fill in" guy. A three month spell on the bench can make a guy a little paranoid. And if theres any time Spector could have any weight with his words it'd be now. As long as his legs are working overtime, I don't mind if he shows a little confidence with wanting to know where he is with the team. Players spend a lot of time honing in certain skills depending on their position. Its important Specs knows what he needs to do week in and week out.
     
  16. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FSC crawl on their morning show is suggesting that:
    1. Grant is confident Parker is staying put and
    2. West Ham is interested in Joey Barton (whose salary Newcastle is looking to offload). This may be cover for the potential exit of Parker.

    Add to that the fact that Noble is due back from appendicitis eventually and you have to wonder what the implications are for Spector's renaissance. I think it's fair to say Noble's problems gave him the opportunity and he's taken it very well, but still...
     
  17. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    woul like to see him in a role in which he's the more attacking of the center mids whether in epl or elsewhere.
     
  18. Skevin

    Skevin Member+

    Aug 9, 2009
    Texas
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Czechia
    Did Spector play as a CB today?
     
  19. giffenbone

    giffenbone Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    Raleigh, NC
    Nope, he played as a midfielder today.
     
  20. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was a traffic cone today.
     
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  21. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Man City might as well have been Barcelona today, compared to West Ham. On Spector's third game in a new position. This was never going to be his day.
     
  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    whether against barcelona or gladbach he'd be better off playing in the more attacking midfield role. what he's bringing to the table is attacking nous.
     
  23. Lombard

    Lombard Member

    Jul 6, 2007
    To my eye, he simply doesn't have the skill set to be an attacking central midfielder--his passing range in particular is extremely limited. But more importantly, he's not played the position since he was 15. The number of failed fullbacks who, seven years into their professional career, are suddenly converted into successful attacking midfielders is... well, I certainly can't think of any.

    The Manchester City game was not promising, and I think his movement in space showed some of his unfamiliarity with the role -- he didn't keep balance very well in the midfield. I don't know how much longer he'll keep this role.
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    more attacking role in central midfield doesn't imply only cam.
     
  25. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    i agree with that completely
     

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