Spain or Brazil? Who will bounce back quicker?

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by Guigs, Jul 8, 2014.

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Who will bounce back quicker?

  1. Spain

    62.9%
  2. Brazil

    37.1%
  1. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    Germany
    Nope. Croatia got beat badly by Brazil and Italy completely bombed in the World Cup.
     
  2. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    I am a big fan fo Brazil and I agree with
    1- teams that are better than Brazil in squad Germany Argentina France Spain (arguably Netherlands and Columbia)
    2- Team could beat Brazil (even with lesser squad): Chile, Mexico, Belgium,
     
  3. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    Croatia got robbed, should have been 2-2 possibly 2-1. Brazil's stupid penalty wasn't one. Croatia had a perfectly good goal disallowed by perisic. 2-2 at least. Also before the 3rd Brazilian goal there was a clear foul that wasn't called. Also all three of the brazilian goals were the goalkeepers fault, and now Croatia have a new and better goal keeper.

    Italy were a great team but the coach ruined it. Prandelli told them to rely on certain players and he played with different formations. He also left a lot of amazing players at home. Now we have Conte who is much smarter and stricter and makes us push hard. We also have new players as well. Italy were also controversially robbed against Uruguay but not too serious.

    The World Cup is past, now the teams are quite different. This Italy & Croatia that you see in the Euro Qualifiers are superior to the Brazil we have now.
     
  4. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    First the team win and you said they were lucky, while your team lost becuase unlucky (or bad coach and bad GK LOL) ? same old weak defense

    Lastly: For your info,
    since last WC1982, Italy NEVER win a game vs Brazil (at least up to 2013)
    Since last decade, Croatia NEVER win a single game to Brazil
     
  5. Italy-Azzurri-Fan

    Nov 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Country:
    Italy
    And Colombia and Belgium never won a game vs Brazil as well.
     
  6. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Country:
    United States
    Yeah Cazorla is a great talent but he'll never be handed the "reigns" to any Spanish selection. As for the rest of those players, yeah some are world class but they are getting old.

    I feel as if Spain needs that younger generation (Jese, Deulofeu) to start getting integrated soon.
     
  7. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Surprised with the overwhelmingly response of Spain bouncing back quicker. People tend to forget that they made the SF sure they got humiliated but they still made it. Sure it was a home but they were not bad other then those two last performances. Sure they didn't play beautifully but they are far from crisis mode. It's just shocked me that they couldn't find better forwards then Fred or Hulk in all of Brazil that was the best attack they could come up with Wtf

    Spain crashed and burn because VDB didn't want to transition to his very talented and capable youth and played the old guard way too long. You could see they were old in the tooth in the Confed Cup yet he insisted with starting the same lineup for his opener. Spain will be alright they have an embarrassment of young talent.
     
  8. celito

    celito Member+

    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Brazil
    If you want to talk about "luck", Croatia's goal was an own goal.
     
  9. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    I think some of the explanation behind your first sentence is contained in the rest of your post. As you say, Spain has a lot of young talent and (perhaps more importantly, in terms of bouncing back quickly) lots of talented players in their prime right now. If there was a world cup in 2015, Spain would have the players to be among the 4-5 favorites to win it, its just an issue of tweaking a couple of things.

    Brasil's problems run deeper. Their weaknesses are more glaring and there is not much that can be done about them right now (as you point out: Fred/Hulk - forwards you'd expect to see on a team like Slovakia, not Brazil). Even a 2018 deadline to fix those problems seems tight.
     
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  10. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    agree so
     
  11. Maximax92

    Maximax92 New Member

    Nov 20, 2016
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    I'd say Spain
     
  12. Zava

    Zava New Member

    Jan 19, 2017
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    the brazil have the players very young and important in confront a t the spain
     

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