Still very hard to hear about mls in the media, how long till MLS starts getting some attention? 5 years maybe?
Define "the media." How much attention would be appropriate? Compare the attention MLS gets to, say, the NASL, USL-Pro, or NCAA. And I can't imagine why there isn't much MLS news in late January. Nope, can't think of a single reason.
I know this is a troll thread but I will bait anyways. Soccer is right on the edge of Mainstream. If you measure by ratings than the Premier League is getting pretty close to the NHL. In terms of clubs Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Chelsea (among others) are known entities within the mainstream American sports world. The World Cup has reached the same level of interest as the Olympics. So I think saying soccer is mainstream is not that far off. And I agree that MLS has not reached that level. I personally think it is a case of MLS being helped by the general rise of soccer rather than MLS driving that interest. Why is that the case.... please see the million other posts about theories.
Oh: And could the thread starter get a new avatar? I don't need to know what pornography sees when it looks out of the computer into the 3-d world.
Madrid, Barca, ManU, Chelsea, the world cup, Beckam, Ronaldo, Messi, Fifa14.. are mainstream now days, MLS... hardly ever hear anything in radio or tv. A lot of mainstream movies and music videos are saying good things about the sport, still MLS is almost never on the news or talked in Saturday Night Live or anything.
Probably depends where you live. Pretty sure MLS is viewed as mainstream in Portland and Seattle. And yes in LA I know the Galaxy don't get much buzz. But besides the Lakers (and occasionally USC) who does? Bet you don't don't hear a lot about the Ducks either (who are the hottest team in the NHL at the moment). I actually agree with you that MLS is not mainstream outside of a few limited markets. I live in a non MLS market and with the exception of the occasional Galaxy jersey there is no imprint at all. But this is nothing new. So my question is what is your point? Do you have a hypothesis as to why? If you are going to point it out have a reason. Otherwise it's just trolling.
There are maybe a dozen clubs--maybe 20, tops--which are "mainstream" by your measure. Atletico Madrid isn't "mainstream." Neither is Malaga. Neither is Tottenham Hotspur, Borussia Dortmund, Ajax, Inter Milan...for that matter, most leagues aren't "mainstream." Your point is that...the sport has gained popularity and attention, but the 17 year-old domestic league doesn't get mentioned frequently in music videos and movies. Is that right? What meaning should we expect you to be able to extrapolate from that insight?
The first time I thought that was when Family Guy did a Zidane joke. But then, I'm the only one of my friends that got it, so not mainstream probably.
I can tell you why MLS/Revs are not mainstream(thou they are known). Thet haven't won a MLS Cup. Since 2001 Pats 3 Superbowls 5 AFC titles Red Sox 3 World Series titles, 3 AL titles Bruins 1 Stanley Cup, 2 East Titles Celtics 1 NBA title, 2 east titles All told 8 championships in 12 Finals. Revs 0 championships in 4 MLS Cup. I will say Revs win at home in 2002. Revs standing in Boston sports becomes more respected. Would have won before Red Sox, Bruins and Celtics did.
DC United have won 13 trophies since the last time the 'Skins won a Superbowl. I have to agree with you about 2002--one of the great lost opportunities in MLS history. You had a huge hometown crowd, and the Kraft family in attendance. I may be a bad United fan for saying this, but I was pulling for you guys.
kinda of weird but I think mls still has lot of work to do in terms of media. In most soccer countries, even second division teams get the front page of newspapers and tv news sometime, here is like MLS doesnt exist, I wonder how long would it take for MLS to actually get some buzz going. MLS is still an underground league in mainstream America, at least, thats the impression I get.
A large portion of the mainstream media still has no clue about the game itself, which is an issue. Not east talking about what you don't understand. It's funny when some of the ESPN guys try and report on the game when something comes up every once in a while and it's like they are speaking a foreign language. They look so damn uncomfortable. Like usual...time. Gonna take time and a full society that is comfortable with the game. Not just folks 30 and younger.
MLS will become mainstream when its coaches stop trying to emulate Ferguson, Mourinho, and Guardiola.
Why is it weird? New England-NHL,NBA,NFL,MLB Mtl-NHL,CFL Tor-NHL,NBA,CFL,MLB RBNY- 3X NHL,2XNBA,NFL &MLB PHL- NHL,NBA,NFL,MLB DC- NHL,NBA,NFL,MLB CBus- TOSU, NHL Chi- NHL,NBA,NFL,2xMLB,ND Hou-NBA,MLB,NBA(college fb,bb) FCD- NHL,NBA,NFL,MLB(college FB too) SKC- NFL,MLB, Missou and CBB RSL-NBA, Utah,BYU Col- NHL,NBA,NFL,MLB Van- NHL,CFL LA/Chv 2x NHL,NBA & MLB SJ-NHL and w/ SF/Oak for NBA,NFL,MLB Por-NBA(help me on college) Sea-MLB, Washington and Wash St. All have been established and rooted in local culture for decades or a century in some places before MLS exsisted.
The thread title has "mainstream" in it and nobody has made a hipster joke yet. We, as a soccer nation, have failed
Looks like most american broadcasters did their homework on world soccer, they talk of Ronaldo as a stud, Madrid and ManU as the Yankees but MLS... well MLS is never mentioned in any conversation...
Who exactly are you talking about when you say "most American broadcasters"? Let's put some numbers to this. Searching the last 12 months of the New York Times, we find: Major League Soccer: 9,610 results Manchester United: 7,900 results New York Red Bulls: 4,520 results Premier League: 4,440 results Real Madrid: 2,490 results Los Angeles Galaxy: 611 results West Bromwich Albion: 113 results So as far as the Times is concerned, MLS and the Red Bulls get plenty of coverage. Maybe things are different in Los Angeles, where you live. Let's check the LA Times: Major League Soccer: 129 results Los Angeles Galaxy: 47 results Premier League: 42 results Real Madrid: 41 results Manchester United: 24 results New York Red Bulls: 8 results West Bromwich Albion: 2 results Again: MLS and the local team get plenty of coverage. More than some "superteams," much more than a mid-table Premier League team. In other words: Your premise is wrong. MLS gets plenty of coverage. So do foreign superclubs--as happens everywhere in the world.
That's not "doing your homework"*, that's knowing the big names that everybody knows. Any 14 year old kid playing FIFA knows that Ronaldo is a "stud" and the Real Madrid is a bigger team than Elche. "Doing your homework" would mean having an opinion about whether or not Atletico Madrid have the depth to keep pace with Real Madrid and Barca for the rest of the La Liga season. "Doing your homework" would mean having an informed opinion on Pogba's comments about leaving Man U. "Doing your homework" would mean having an informed opinion on whether or not Reus will and/or should leave Dortmund for a bigger club. "Doing your homework", would also mean having an informed opinion on whether or not single-entity is still the best financial plan for MLS going forward. Going back to your examples, it's not "doing your homework" to know that Man U is a big club. It WOULD be "doing your homework" to have an informed opinion on the current situation--do you think Moyes is in over his head? Did Fergie leave him a flawed roster? Are there just too many over-the-hill vets and too many holes to fill? THAT would require "doing your homework". In short, it would mean knowing something other than a handful of big names and big teams. I don't follow F1, but I know that Michael Schumacher is recovering from a ski accident. Many sports fans in the USA know about his accident, and know that he's a big name in Formula 1 racing. So what? *Using quote marks even though this isn't a direct quote; just paraphrasing your words.