Should we get rid of food stamps, Medicaid, etc, for families, and just give the poor lots of money?

The Devil's Architect · Jun 30, 2017

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I couldn't decide whether to put this in this thread or the "pay more people money" thread:
Semi completes first self-driving commercial shipment through Fort Collins-Colorado Springs beer run
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Pretty low risk. Even if the truck drove off the side of the mountain, you're only losing like $500 in beer costs to replace the load

stanger · Jun 30, 2017

Mr. Warmth said: ↑

Pretty low risk. Even if the truck drove off the side of the mountain, you're only losing like $500 in beer costs to replace the load
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Not a Banquet Beer fan?

The Devil's Architect · Jun 30, 2017

stanger said: ↑

Not a Banquet Beer fan?
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I actually like Original Coors, when I can get it in non-Oklahoma ABV and I miss Coors Extra Gold - won't drink Coors Light

superdave · Jun 30, 2017

ElJefe said: ↑

I couldn't decide whether to put this in this thread or the "pay more people money" thread:
Semi completes first self-driving commercial shipment through Fort Collins-Colorado Springs beer run
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Check the date

roadkit · Jun 30, 2017

Mr. Warmth said: ↑

Pretty low risk. Even if the truck drove off the side of the mountain, you're only losing like $500 in beer costs to replace the load
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Must be hauling Coors Light.

Scissorkick Collins · Jun 30, 2017

roadkit said: ↑

Must be hauling Coors Light.
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Even worse, it's Anheuser-Busch/Budweiser. Coors is brewed in Golden.

Also, no mountain sides to fall off from Ft. Collins to Co Springs, just a straight shot down I-25....

ElJefe · Jul 1, 2017

superdave said: ↑

Check the date
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It popped back up on my feed because it's apparently made the Guinness Book of World Records for "Longest continuous journey by a driverless and autonomous lorry."

Scissorkick Collins said: ↑

Even worse, it's Anheuser-Busch/Budweiser. Coors is brewed in Golden.

Also, no mountain sides to fall off from Ft. Collins to Co Springs, just a straight shot down I-25....
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On the other hand, you have to go completely across Denver, including through downtown, and you do go over Monument Hill south of Denver.

Scissorkick Collins · Jul 1, 2017

ElJefe said: ↑

It popped back up on my feed because it's apparently made the Guinness Book of World Records for "Longest continuous journey by a driverless and autonomous lorry."

On the other hand, you have to go completely across Denver, including through downtown, and you do go over Monument Hill south of Denver.
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Oh yeah, I could almost hit I-25 with a rock from my balcony in Jefferson Park.

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Jul 1, 2017

Mr. Warmth said: ↑

I actually like Original Coors, when I can get it in non-Oklahoma ABV and I miss Coors Extra Gold - won't drink Coors Light
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Coors finally made it East around the time I became legal. It was touted in all the bars back then as a big deal from out West. Then we tasted it. Made Rolling Rock taste like a fine Czech pilsener.

ElJefe · Jul 1, 2017

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Oh yeah, I could almost hit I-25 with a rock from my balcony in Jefferson Park.
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So you understand how ridiculous the traffic can be all the way 120th Ave and C-470.

Scissorkick Collins · Jul 1, 2017

ElJefe said: ↑

So you understand how ridiculous the traffic can be all the way 120th Ave and C-470.
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Yes. What do I win?

ElJefe · Jul 1, 2017

Scissorkick Collins said: ↑

Yes. What do I win?
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A back rub from Pablo Mastroeni?

NORML · Jul 1, 2017

Mr. Warmth said: ↑

Pretty low risk. Even if the truck drove off the side of the mountain, you're only losing like $500 in beer costs to replace the load
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I can see a truck full of Keystone being valued at 500 bucks

The Devil's Architect · Jul 1, 2017

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I can see a truck full of Keystone being valued at 500 bucks
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I remember when Keystone was the beer with "the taste of bottled beer in a can"

then they started bottling it...

Cascarino's Pizzeria · Jul 1, 2017

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I remember when Keystone was the beer with "the taste of bottled beer in a can"

then they started bottling it...
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My BILs not a big drinker. So back in the day if I was visiting he'd inevitably stock the fridge with a 12-pack of Old Milwaukee. Looking back I guess he wanted me to leave town quicker.

Dr. Wankler · Jul 1, 2017

I can't really say anything given that I just popped a Genesee tallboy.

crazypete13 · Jul 6, 2017

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I can't really say anything given that I just popped a Genesee tallboy.
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There is a burger joint in my hood that has Schlitz in cans. The burgers are great.

VFish · Jul 6, 2017

NORML said: ↑

I can see a truck full of Keystone being valued at 500 bucks
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Only if it hasn't been unloaded. The truck would could easily bring $1500 if empty.

Moishe · Jul 6, 2017

ElJefe said: ↑

A back rub from Pablo Mastroeni?
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...and a suitcase of Coors.

superdave · Jul 17, 2017

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...l-basic-income-review-stern-murray-automation

Exploration of the UBI, from the left and right.

Not to bury the lede, but the article makes a "historical precedent" case that the current wave of automation won't cause structural unemployment. I remain dubious that will be true except the short-medium term. I expect my teenage kids to experience high levels of unemployment caused by technology.

ElJefe · Jul 17, 2017

superdave said: ↑

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...l-basic-income-review-stern-murray-automation

Exploration of the UBI, from the left and right.

Not to bury the lede, but the article makes a "historical precedent" case that the current wave of automation won't cause structural unemployment.
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Those arguments tend to be handwavey arguments that past performance guarantee future results.

I remain dubious that will be true except the short-medium term. I expect my teenage kids to experience high levels of unemployment caused by technology.
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Here's the way I explain why people should be worried: The Industrial Revolution largely replaced human and animal physical power in the production of goods and services with machine physical power. And so for one or two hundred years, you had human minds guiding mechanical machines. The Information Age is replacing the human mental power in the production of goods and services with ever-improving technological power. The human minds guiding the machines are being steadily replaced by ever more sophisticated automated processes, machine learning, and rudimentary artificial intelligence.

In the near term, there will be an ever decreasing part of a human being that won't be sufficiently replaceable by artificial brains and artificial brawn. Can human societies generate a sufficient number of jobs that require that small part of a human being in order to sustain societal structures in which people make their living through labor?

crazypete13 · Jul 17, 2017

ElJefe said: ↑

Those arguments tend to be handwavey arguments that past performance guarantee future results.

Here's the way I explain why people should be worried: The Industrial Revolution largely replaced human and animal physical power in the production of goods and services with machine physical power. And so for one or two hundred years, you had human minds guiding mechanical machines. The Information Age is replacing the human mental power in the production of goods and services with ever-improving technological power. The human minds guiding the machines are being steadily replaced by ever more sophisticated automated processes, machine learning, and rudimentary artificial intelligence.

In the near term, there will be an ever decreasing part of a human being that won't be sufficiently replaceable by artificial brains and artificial brawn. Can human societies generate a sufficient number of jobs that require that small part of a human being in order to sustain societal structures in which people make their living through labor?
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Here's a list of professions most and least likely to be replaced by automation.

Basically, the more likely you job involves repetitive tasks or defined logic - the more likely you'll be automated out of a job. The more your job involves managing, education, research, design or creativity - the more you're likely to be kept on.

Dr. Wankler · Jul 17, 2017

I'm torn over whether I should figure out how to build a robot that can produce and sell heroin, or try to make it as a porn actor.

NORML · Jul 17, 2017

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I'm torn over whether I should figure out how to build a robot that can produce and sell heroin, or try to make it as a porn actor.
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drug robot. the porn industry is in rough shape. There is still plenty demand out there for porn but no one wants to pay for it anymore. people will still pay top dollar for piss poor heroin.

song219 · Jul 17, 2017

NORML said: ↑

drug robot. the porn industry is in rough shape. There is still plenty demand out there for porn but no one wants to pay for it anymore. people will still pay top dollar for piss poor heroin.
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If you film porn in a way that activates the same receptors that opiates do you can have the best of both worlds. People paying top dollar for piss poor porn.