Should the Nations Cup add 1 more team?

Discussion in 'Central America' started by UMass, Aug 3, 2008.

  1. UMass

    UMass New Member

    Jun 14, 2006
    Boston
    Nations Cup is a biennial football tournament, held for the CONCACAF national teams of Central America (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama).The tournament started in 1991 and it doubles as a qualifying event for the Gold cup. The Nations Cup is rotated amoungst the 7 nations so no one nation has an advantage. It also creates interest around the area. The host nation is always placed in the easiest group. The thinking here is the desire to have the host nation advance to keep the interest of the host nations fans. Last year El Salvador hosted and were placed with Nicaragua, Belize and Guatemala. The power teams of Central America (Costa Rica, Panama and Honduras) had to fight for 2 spots to advance.

    This tournament always creates an odd group of 3 teams in the preliminary group stage. I think it is time to add a team that would complete the odd group. The problem is who do you add. You do not want a team like Brazil that would dominate the tournament at one end and you do not want a team that would be cannon fodder either. You want a team that is equally as good as the top Central American powers. A team that would create interest and enhance the tournament. A team that could become a rival to some of the Central America nations.

    They do not have to look any further than the Caribbean nations. The top teams in the Caribbean can compete with the top teams in Central America. The Caribbean Cup crowns the Caribbean Champion bi-annually and UNCAF could have the Caribbean Champion play in the UNCAF Cup.

    Haiti was the Caribbean Champion in 2005 and they could fit the bill. The action would create 2 groups for 4 nations. You would not have the odd group of 3 nations. The Caribbean Champion would not dominate the tourney but they certanly could compete for the Title as well. This would also create bragging rights between the two CONCACAF regions. Each region believe they have better teams that the other. This action would enhance the tournament with the Caribbean Champion. It would also create interest and more exposure in both Central America and the Caribbean.
     
  2. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    El Salvador
    They really should add one more team, because it seems to alter the qualification, because one group has 4 countries the other has 3. I think a team like Suriname should be in the tournament....or a carribean team.
     
  3. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Country:
    Costa Rica

    yeah that would be cool...very good idea... i would like to have mexico playing the UNCAF, but they wouldnt like the idea, so a caribbean team would be nice too
     
  4. UMass

    UMass New Member

    Jun 14, 2006
    Boston
    The guest team most likely would be a fresh new team each tournament. The team would also be getting lots of press since it is the Caribbean Champion.
    This also would give the tournament a more wide open feel to it. Previous editions had a few top teams. Now with the emergence of El Salvador and the Caribbean Champ will give the Nations Cup 6 legitimate teams to win the Title. Belize showed they can compete with Mexico in the WCQ in America but they still have a way to go.
     
  5. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Honduras
    ummm the problem is they have Digicel cup thing...and thats their version of UNCAF, cuz I think the Top 4 teams that make it to the semifinals of the digicel cup go to the Gold Cup and UNCAF is for the gold cup, so its makes no sense cuz they want a ticket to the gold cup.
     
  6. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Country:
    Costa Rica
    we should invite South Corea, they are always happy to be invited to anything:D
     
  7. manudo1987

    manudo1987 New Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Heredia,Costa Rica
    Jeje:D, i remember we beated them in the Gold Cup, i think it was back in 2002.
     
  8. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    The Caribbean champions would already be qualified for the Gold Cup, so it will provide meaningful games for all teams involved. It makes perfect sense.
     
  9. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Honduras
    no it wouldnt, they already qualified while we YET to qualify.
     
  10. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Country:
    Honduras
    i say just send some african team or Bolivia to it...i got it, send one of those autonomous countries to participate.
     
  11. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    What's the difference between having the Caribbean champions or Bolivia or some African country?
     
  12. truesoccerfan

    truesoccerfan New Member

    Aug 8, 2008
    los angeles
    yes i agree with everyone's need to boost the uncaf tournament somehow bcause no one really care's about it....yea maybe the third place or fouth place of the digicel cup can play for a spot in the gold cup while playing agaisnt the centroamerica countries.
     
  13. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    The four Caribbean Championships semifinalists qualify for the Gold Cup. Thus, you'd need the two 3rd placed teams to play-off for a spot in the UNCAF Nations Cup. Two years ago it would have been Guyana vs. Martinique. Now you could have Guadeloupe vs. Martinique (looking at the Caribbean ELO Ratings).
    However, I don't think UNCAF are likely to risk losing a GC spot to CFU. Imagine El Salvador missing out on the GC after a 5th place play-off against Guadeloupe. I think if UNCAF will invite a team it won't give them the opportunity to qualify for the GC at the expense of an UNCAF team.
     
  14. truesoccerfan

    truesoccerfan New Member

    Aug 8, 2008
    los angeles
    ok bottomline is>> uncaf<<< is a meanless tournament.
     
  15. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    The final tournament could be moved to Honduras or Guatemala -> La Prensa.
     
  16. mcruic

    mcruic Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Scotland
    Club:
    Dundee United FC
    Country:
    Scotland
    What about San Andrés y Providencia as the 8th team? :rolleyes:
     
  17. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    Panamá declina la sede de la Copa de Naciones 2009 11/1/2008


    Mediante carta oficializada el día de hoy a la UNCAF, la FEDERACION PANAMEÑA DE FUTBOL ha confirmado la decisión de declinar la sede para la organización de la COPA DE NACIONES DE UNCAF 2009, prevista para celebrarse en el mes de enero del próximo año.

    Esta decisión obedece a que, siendo el escenario del Estadio Rommel Fernández, el cual inicialmente había sido considerado para el evento, se encuentra en trabajos de remodelación total, y no estará listo para el mes de enero del 2009, tampoco la alternativa para el uso del Estadio Nacional Rod Carew será posible luego de haber agotado sin éxito una reunión entre las autoridades de la FEPAFUT, UNCAF, y la empresa TRAFFIC con miembros del Patronato del Estadio, en un último esfuerzo para obtener la disponibilidad de dicho estadio, debido a que el Patronato del Estadio Nacional en la actualidad mantiene diferentes Contratos de Patrocinio, en algunos casos de carácter exclusivo, los cuales no les permiten cumplir con los requisitos del cuadernillo técnico de la UNCAF en materia comercial, y en virtud de que la principal empresa tenedora de dichos derechos no ha liberado o autorizado al Patronato para a su vez pueda arrendar el estadio en las condiciones comerciales exigidas.

    Ante estas circunstancias, y entendiendo que no se pueden extender más los plazos para alcanzar una negociación, la FEPAFUT se ha visto en la penosa necesidad de declinar la sede de la COPA DE NACIONES DE UNCAF 2009, por los compromisos contractuales del Estadio Rod Carew que hasta el momento no han podido ser liberados para el desarrollo del torneo en Panamá.

    OFICINA DE INFORMACION
    FEPAFUT

    http://www.fepafut.com/noticiasdetail.asp?id=1361
     
  18. juice310

    juice310 Member

    Jul 1, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Country:
    United States
    Yeah why not they should bring a 4th place carribeean team to play the 8th spot in the Uncaf
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    Is this tournament still going on? How about inviting a non FIFA teams, like Guadalupe or Surinam? They would love more international games.
     
  20. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Nassau County, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    United States
    Yes.
    I could see the CFU Champion who would already be qualified for the Gold Cup competing in the Nations Cup considering that UNCAF has their tournament after CFU. With two groups of four in the Nations Cup the top three in each group would qualify for the Gold Cup if that was five UNCAF countries and the CFU champion. If the CFU champion finished last in their group the two third place finishers would play each other for UNCAF's fifth Gold Cup spot like in the current format.

    Edit: Contrary to what ceezmad said, Suriname is a member of FIFA.
     
  21. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Country:
    United States
    OK! I was thinking about the french or is it the dutch country in south America, they are like Guadalupe, members of CONCACAF but not members of FIFA. I guess that Suriname is the independent former British colony.
     
  22. TBR

    TBR Member

    Mar 15, 2007
    DMV
    Club:
    CD Aguila
    Country:
    El Salvador
    I wouldn't be against this idea.
     
  23. Surinamese-man

    Aug 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Suriname was a Dutch colony and a member of the FIFA
    Guyana was a British colony and,also a member of the FIFA
    France Guyana is stil a French Department.
     
  24. Libero4

    Libero4 Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    I just restarted another thread about bringing Canada on board in the Nations cup.

    I could see other Carribean nations such as Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and Cuba being a part of the tournament as well.

    They all speak Spanish and have far more in common culturally with the Central American countries than with their Carribean neighbors.

    Now would the dictator warner allow it.

    Probably not.:(
     
    LGRod repped this.
  25. mcruic

    mcruic Member

    Jun 26, 2004
    Scotland
    Club:
    Dundee United FC
    Country:
    Scotland
    You're not the first person to write Guadalupe - It's Guadeloupe (it's French not Spanish). Guadalupe is an island off the West coast of Mexico with about 15 inhabitants.
     

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