Seleção General Discussion, 2018 and beyond

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Century's Best, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    Good points you have! I don’t see a specific reason for the general decline in Brasil soccer... it probaby is a sum of various factors:
    -Corruption in top of CBF.
    -Corruption in general of all politicians in Brasil.
    -Everyone who works in soccer management, clubs or federations, are in for the money, nothing else.

    So, instead of investing money in talent and player development, they just take the money and run!
     
  2. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    In 90 and 94 we thought we were in decline compared to 70s and 80s. But that team won the WC. Winning change the perspective of how those players are viewed.

    Having said that, a focus on physical players as opposed to technical has a role in it. Corruption of CBF is not the real problem. The problem is CBF doesn't really do anything other than being corrupt for development. Then again they never have. They do take care of the Seleção well though.

    Another issue is that young players need the right agents who demand money to get playing spots. That's a known problem.

    Palmeiras has been trying to invest in its youth development program and we've been winning a lot of titles from U11 to U19. I am not sure how player selection is though.
     
  3. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    I felt the develop has improved in some areas and regressed in others. We are producing more quality central defenders, goalkeepers and wide fowards/wingers. Midfield is the same as it has been since the 90’s more emphasis on strength than technique. Striker development has gotten worse.

    Some of the issues are related to talent leaving Brazil to early or not going to the right environment to develop.
     
  4. manimal

    manimal New Member

    Dec 23, 2018
    How would you compare france youth academies to brazil ones?
     
  5. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    France is more patient and less results based. Fans put more pressure in Brazil for results and that affects player development.
     
  6. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Brazil vs. Czech Republic, March 26. Venue: Prague. There will be another FIFA-date friendly match in March; opponent to be announced.
     
  7. joudre

    joudre Member

    Jan 3, 2016
    I hope we can a good result
     
  8. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neymar injured today. Same foot as the injury pre-WC. Looked like he was grabbing the top of the foot too. A little before the injury he was hacked 3 times by the same player before the ref called anything.
     
  9. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neymar 5th metatarsal fracture confirmed. Still not sure if surgery will be needed.

    Tite needs to start thinking about moving on from Neymar for now. Coutinho is also playing just awful at Barca at the moment.
     
  10. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    one of the reasons we lost the world cup - Neymar was not 100% healthy...
     
  11. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Neymar out for 10 weeks. Not opting for surgery which would sideline him for the rest of the season.
     
  12. Kaka10725

    Kaka10725 Member+

    Jun 1, 2007
    Don’t really know who Tite can go to as an offensive leader without Neymar. Coutinho isn’t in form this season.
     
  13. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    U20 team losing to Venezuela 1 x 0 in the 2nd game of the final group stage of the SA U20 tournament.
     
  14. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    2 x 0 for Venezuela now.
     
  15. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Rodrygo loses his head .. red carded. Could see it coming. Being sore losers.
     
  16. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Now a disgusting challenge that should have been another red. Kneed the Venezuelan in the face and then tried to kick him in the face with studs again going down.

    Disgusting behavior from these kids.
     
  17. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    Brazil plays the Czech Republic in Prague on March 26. But on March 23, in Porto, Brazil will first face Panama.

    The roster will be announced on February 28.
     
  18. Doc_Exec

    Doc_Exec Member

    Jul 7, 2004
    What happened to the game against Denmark (that Omajac reported)?
     
  19. Bernasconi

    Bernasconi New Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Feb 20, 2019
    Gabigol todos os gols na temporada :thumbsup:

     
  20. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    You can expect Vinicius Jr. and probably Paquetá to be called up for the upcoming friendlies.
     
  21. Anders2555

    Anders2555 Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Aug 23, 2018
    Rio de Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Sim.

    Vinícius merece essa convocação, está jogando muito bem, acredito que ele seria uma das duas novidades ditas, agora com a lesão do Firmino é praticamente garantido.
     
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  22. old_carioca_in_nyc

    Jan 26, 2007
    Who will not be called for them? Paulinho? Fernandinho?
     
  23. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    we were. 1995 was the year that Rivaldo, R9, RC, Cafu , etc hit their primes and everything changed, and that wave was stretched until till '06 but 94 is still the least talented of all our WC winning teams . the late 80s to mid 90s was our worst decade in terms øf individual talent (second only to 2010s).

    I believe free transfer market aka Lei Pele is what caused our decline. If the passe was brought back and the domestic clubs could hold onto those players until they are 24, 25 years old as opposed to like, 18, things would gradually improve. And youth divisions would be able to put more focus on the technical aspect over the physical as we traditionally used to.
     
  24. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    anyone here about who selecao will play in may? i'm hoping they come to fl. i figured they would've put that panama match in miami.
     
  25. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Vinicius blew a couple of times by Semedo who's a fast defender today. We may have a game changer in our hands. I think he might have gone for cheap @Mengão86
     

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