Post-match: Seattle Sounders FC - San Jose Earthquakes (Wednesday, 4/24) postgame thread [R]

Those shit always think their guys get fouled, and always believe that any fouls called against them are biased, or the ref cheating or trying to even things up. Most of them don’t know crap about the game either. Turds!

Go Quakes!!
F@#$ shittle!!

- Mark

 

Black and Azul Seattle postgame:

 

I think the unexpected shots from 30 yards from varying people (Shea, Espinoza, Magnus, Godoy, Yueill, Lima) also adds to the perception of chaos for an MLS defender.

In MLS, it seems that players are reluctant to take a shot and waste the more conservative opportunity to advance the ball. But it would seem Almeyda is encouraging more of those longer shots from the midfield.

 

Seattle fans pissed off again by LAFC. They had 14 fouls to LA’s 7 plus they had 2 red cards. It’s all the Quake’s fault because we were so physical against them on Weds. LOL

 

Actually the first red card was pathetically wrong (VC by Christian Roldan, inadvertent hand to the face), and it was in the 18th minute. Not only did Seattle keep LAFC from scoring for the rest of the game, they also had more offense even though a man down. The 2nd ejection was for DOGSO in stoppage time.

So actually, Seattle did really well, and their fans were incredibly loud and supportive, with a packed stadium. Seattle has lots to be proud of.

 

I'm not convinced Roldan's hand-to-the-face was inadvertent, and LAFC had plenty of offense while up a man. Sounders did well to protect the draw down a man for 75 minutes. They are a very good team, but they were also lucky several times not to be scored upon. (Ramirez missed a wide open net from an inch away, after all.)

 

Imo it was intentional, however, the LAFC player should get fined for being an embellishing little bitch.

 

Doesn't matter you are not allowed to "touch" another players head/face.

 

If that were true, and strictly enforced, every time players inadvertently nocked noggins vying for goal kick, they would each earn red cards. There's an implicit intent or recklessness element in the rule's application, if not its letter.

 

I really do not know the LOTG very well, but I think this particular one specifically applies to hands/arms only.

 

Jerry Hughes Got a Personal Foul for Celebrating By Slapping His Own Teammate on the Helmet

The Buffalo Bills stuffed the Patriots on third and short, and Jerry Hughes was excited. He got called for a personal foul for this after the play, which extended the drive. That’s kind of silly . . .

https://thebiglead.com/2014/10/12/j...g-by-slapping-his-own-teammate-on-the-helmet/

 

Yeah, it is a knee-jerk reaction to try and "fix" previous times when we feel a ref/judge "got it wrong" by adding a minimum sentence in law. It doesn't usually work that well. I am all for giving the ref the ability to review the facts on video, but I also think there is no avoiding discretion in the ref/judge position. And attempts to remove discretion by adding nit-picky rules just lead to a different kind of nonsense. E.g. a red card for a playful interaction where neither player upset.

 

You don't like the Anglo-American system of following precedent?

 

I don't think that principle is being followed nearly as consistently as it was in the past century...

 

I think it is conceptually flawed to think that you can remove discretion from judging by piling on laws. Discretion finds a way and piles of laws are like piles of medications: the interactions are unpredictable. You cause as many problems as you fix, and the ones you cause are more complicated because they are starting from an inherently more complicated position: you have the full starting set of problems and now a full set of "fixes" to deal with.

 

Cannot disagree with your abstract principle (did I spell that right?), but how are you applying it in this case?

 

Appellate advocacy -- one of the glories of Anglo-American jurisprudence!

RESCINDED! We have won the appeal on Cristian Roldan’s red card and he is eligible to play this weekend against Minnesota. 😃 pic.twitter.com/8tzabOOerx

— Seattle Sounders FC (@SoundersFC) May 1, 2019

 

Refs could always give a red card for a hand in a face if it was warranted. Now they "have to". Except they don't always.