Scoring situation

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by crzdcolombian, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Goleadores en Mexico:

    1. Luis Gabriel Rey 164 goals ( 15 seasons)
    2.Darwin Quintero 111 (8 seasons)
    3.Dorlan Pabon 50 ( 2 seasons and a half)
    4. Andres Chitiva 48 goals ( 10 seasons)
    5.Franco Arizala 40 goals ( 6 seasons)
    6.rodallega 39 goals 3 seasons
    7.Dayro moreno 38 goals ( 2 seasons and a half)
    8.Jackson Martinez 36 goals
    9.Duver riascos 36
    10.Andres Renteria 33
    11.Edwin Cardona 28 ( one season and a half)
    12. Hernan Brubano 25 goals ( 4 seasons)
    13.Aviles Hurtado 23 ( 3 seasons
    14.Franky Oviedo 23 goals
    15.Fernando Uribe 20 (one season and a half)
    16. Loboa 18 goals ( 4 seasons)
    17. Andres Andrade 17 goals ( 2 seasons)
    18. Aldo leao Ramirez 15 goals ( 8 seasons)
    19. Valenciano 15 goals ( 2 seasons)
     
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  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    goleadores era pekerman :

    15 de falcao (mexico, uruguay, chile(3), paraguay (2) bolivia, peru , belgica, el salvador, Bahrein (2), Kuwait, costa rica)
    15 de james (Tunez, chile(2), Jordania ecuador, peru, uruguay (2), costa de marfil, grecia , bolivia japon brazil y canada)
    10 de teo (uruguay (2), chile (2), peru , senegal , bolivia, grecia ,usa, peru)
    10 de bacca (camerun , senegal, El salvador (2), usa, Bahrein, peru, bolivia, ecuador (2))
    5 de jackson (guatemala (2) camerun, japon (2))
    5 de cuadrado (mexico, jordania, brazil , japon y haiti)
    3 de cardona (kuwait, peru y bolivia)
    2 de yepes ( paraguay)
    2 de guarin (serbia y jordania)
    2 de armero (bolivia y grecia )
    2 de aguilar (guatemala y kuwait)
    2 de ramos (eslovenia, bahrein)
    1 de muriel (guatemala)
    1 de dorlan (camerun)
    1 de macnelly(bolivia)
    1 de valdez (bolivia) rebote
    1 de zuñiga (uruguay)
    1 de ibarbo (belgica)
    1 de quintero (costa de marfil)
    1 de renteria (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de murillo (brasil)
    1 de sebas perez (ecuador)
    1 de roger martinez (haiti)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)

    85 goles

    asistentes de pekerman
    12 de james ( (brazil , uruguay (2), paraguay , belgica, japon(2), usa ,esolvenia, peru, bolivia, ecuador)
    10 de cuadrado (guatemala, bolivia grecia (2), costa de marfil , uruguay, costa rica ,peru, ecuador)
    5 de armero :eek: ( mexico ,guatemala, bolivia, peru, chile)
    4 de falcao ( uruguay ,chile ,el salvador, bahrein)
    4 de bacca (senegal , guatemala, bahrein, bolivia)
    3 de macnelly (guatemala ,paraguay y Bolivia)
    2 abel (uruguay , grecia y uruguay)
    2 de aldo (chile y bolivia)
    2 de ibarbo (senegal y jordania)
    2 de cardona (usa y ecuador)
    1 de pabon (peru)
    1 de alcatraz (camerun)
    1 de soto (paraguay)
    1 de sanchez ( camerun)
    1 de marrugo (camerun)
    1 de zuñiga o abel... ( uruguay)
    1 de perea ( belgica)
    1 de teo (costa de marfil)
    1 de ramos (japon)
    1 de arias (el salvador)
    1 de Cardona (usa)
    1 de quintero (bahrein)
    1 de guarin (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de renteria(bahrein)
    1 de zapata (peru)
    1 de muriel (chile)
    1 de marlos moreno (bolivia)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de guillermo celis (haiti)
    1 de sebastian perez (haiti)

    penales producidos :

    james (2 chile)
    zuñiga (1 peru)
    Cuadrado (1 jordania)
    Ibarbo (1 tunez)
    bacca (1 brazil)
    ramos (1 japon)
    Falcao (1 kuwait)

    -62 goles de jugada colectiva.....
    -7 goles de rebote (james ecuador, falcao mexico, yepes paraguay, valdez bolivia, bacca al salvador, aguilar a kuwait, murillo a brasil) .
    -1 tiro libre james (chile)
    - 9 de penal


    11 producidos de pelota quieta: Jakcson contra guatemala, James contra chile, valdez contra bolivia, yepes (2 contra paraguay), Teo contra senegal, ibarbo contra belgica, teo contra grecia, james contra costa de marfil, murillo contra brazil, teo contra peru)

    7 cabezas (muriel, valdez, yepes, james, falcao, teo(2) )
     
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  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @BlueDamian sobre lo que hablamos el otro día de rey
     
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  4. BlueDamian

    BlueDamian Member+

    Jun 7, 2005
    In the shade
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Entonces ha tenido una buena carrera, toda en Mexico. Y cuando jugo para la seleccion no lo hizo del nada mal, considerando que en esos tiempos a los delanteros no les llegaban balones. Otro dl que no me acordaba era Andres Chitiva.
     
  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    goleadores era pekerman :

    17 de james (Tunez, chile(2), Jordania ecuador, peru, uruguay (2), costa de marfil, grecia , bolivia japon brazil y canada, USA, Paraguay)
    15 de falcao (mexico, uruguay, chile(3), paraguay (2) bolivia, peru , belgica, el salvador, Bahrein (2), Kuwait, costa rica)
    12 de bacca (camerun , senegal, El salvador (2), usa, Bahrein, peru, bolivia, ecuador (2) Paraguay, USA)
    10 de teo (uruguay (2), chile (2), peru , senegal , bolivia, grecia ,usa, peru)
    5 de jackson (guatemala (2) camerun, japon (2))
    5 de cuadrado (mexico, jordania, brazil , japon y haiti)
    3 de cardona (kuwait, peru y bolivia)
    2 de yepes ( paraguay)
    2 de guarin (serbia y jordania)
    2 de armero (bolivia y grecia )
    2 de aguilar (guatemala y kuwait)
    2 de ramos (eslovenia, bahrein)
    1 de muriel (guatemala)
    1 de dorlan (camerun)
    1 de macnelly(bolivia)
    1 de valdez (bolivia) rebote
    1 de zuñiga (uruguay)
    1 de ibarbo (belgica)
    1 de quintero (costa de marfil)
    1 de renteria (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de murillo (brasil)
    1 de sebas perez (ecuador)
    1 de roger martinez (haiti)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de fabra
    1 de marlos moreno
    1 cristian zapata

    85 goles

    asistentes de pekerman
    13 de james ( (brazil , uruguay (2), paraguay , belgica, japon(2), usa ,esolvenia, peru, bolivia, ecuador, paraguay)
    11 de cuadrado (guatemala, bolivia grecia (2), costa de marfil , uruguay, costa rica ,peru, ecuador, costa rica)
    5 de armero :eek: ( mexico ,guatemala, bolivia, peru, chile)
    4 de falcao ( uruguay ,chile ,el salvador, bahrein)
    4 de bacca (senegal , guatemala, bahrein, bolivia)
    4 de cardona (usa , ecuador, usa y paraguay)
    3 de macnelly (guatemala ,paraguay y Bolivia)
    2 abel (uruguay , grecia y uruguay)
    2 de aldo (chile y bolivia)
    2 de ibarbo (senegal y jordania)
    2 de arias (el salvador y USA)
    1 de pabon (peru)
    1 de alcatraz (camerun)
    1 de soto (paraguay)
    1 de sanchez ( camerun)
    1 de marrugo (camerun)
    1 de zuñiga o abel... ( uruguay)
    1 de perea ( belgica)
    1 de teo (costa de marfil)
    1 de ramos (japon)
    1 de Cardona (usa)
    1 de quintero (bahrein)
    1 de guarin (bahrein)
    1 de mojica (bahrein)
    1 de renteria(bahrein)
    1 de zapata (peru)
    1 de muriel (chile)
    1 de marlos moreno (bolivia)
    1 de dayro moreno (haiti)
    1 de guillermo celis (haiti)
    1 de sebastian perez (haiti)

    penales producidos :

    james (2 chile)
    zuñiga (1 peru)
    Cuadrado (1 jordania)
    Ibarbo (1 tunez)
    bacca (1 brazil)
    ramos (1 japon)
    Falcao (1 kuwait)
    Farid Diaz (1 Usa)

    -67 goles de jugada colectiva.....
    -8 goles de rebote (james ecuador, falcao mexico, yepes paraguay, valdez bolivia, bacca al salvador, aguilar a kuwait, murillo a brasil, Fabra a costa rica) .
    -1 tiro libre james (chile)
    - 10 de penal


    13 producidos de pelota quieta: Jakcson contra guatemala, James contra chile, valdez contra bolivia, yepes (2 contra paraguay), Teo contra senegal, ibarbo contra belgica, teo contra grecia, james contra costa de marfil, murillo contra brazil, teo contra peru, zapata contra usa, bacca contra paraguay)

    8 cabezas (muriel, valdez, yepes, james, falcao, teo(2) , bacca )
     
  6. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Do you guys think James will get to 50 goals in the NT? Think he has at least to the 2022 if not 2026 campaign will be 33 at that world cup
     
  7. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nah. I think he might score between 30 and 40.
     
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  8. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He is 24 been on the NT 4.5 years and has 17. Def going to destroy Falcaos record but when we finally get a killer up top think James production will descrease. Is he already our all time leading assist player?
     
  9. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I think that if he isn't already, he might be very close to Valderrama. Who knows, if he keeps scoring consistently the next few years he might reach the numbers you are saying.
     
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  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    segun wikipedia valderrama tiene 40 asistencias en sus 111 partidos con la seleccion.......de ser verdadero ese numero, james esta lejisimo con 13.
     
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  11. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    40 is insane I thought we didn't score that much before Pekerman? Other then The Argentina game 20+ years ago and the 2 5-0s under Rueda we have for the most part been a low scoring team.
     
  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    in 90s we were a scoring team.....you didnt watch that team that you love to bitch.
     
  13. lvbeto

    lvbeto Member

    Jul 27, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Sorry a little off topic but you guys brought up a memory from the past for me.

    I remember the 95 Copa America game, Colombia vs USA for 3rd place. It was said that it was our revenge game, first meeting between the two since the 94 World Cup (I believe). Well, Colombia played well that day, won 4-1. Looked faster and better than the US. Valderrama actually scored, haha.

    Sadly though, after the game, I still had that empty feeling. Who were we kidding. It wasn't revenge. This victory didn't make up for the World Cup. Anyhow, had to share.
     
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  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So according ti crzd 4-1, is a low scoring ...
     
  15. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Dude what is your problem I was 3 years old!! Do you remember games when you were that old. I remember the 2001 team and up. My dad would take me to this Colombian restaurant and we would watch the games. It was like 20 bucks and had free food. Aren't you like 27? How the hell do you remember a team from when your 4/5?
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    The problem is that you bitch about them !!! And you never watched!

    I Didnt Remember , But i have researched about them , and The achievements of their players ...you only repeat like a parrot that they sucked
     
  17. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Game is better now teams are better leagues are better. Messi is better then Pele. I don't care what Pele did. He played when no one else did, training wasn't as good. Brazil could beat all of SA by 10. Now Argentina goes to Bolivia and can get raped. The quality of players has gotten better.

    I don't hate the 90s team but people talk about them
    Like they did something other then win 1 fking game!!!

    James gold boot winner of WC. Already top 3 strikers on the NT history.Yet nope Pibe still Better

    Falcao top scorer ever for Colombia, was rated a top 5 striker In the world for 3 years. Takes us to a WC. Nope not shit compared to Asprilla.

    Our current roster can win 5 cups and people will still just bring us a 5-0 that cost us 16 years of heart ache after
     
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  18. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    asprilla y Valderrama jugaron en una época donde no existía ley bosman y aún así sobresalieron e hicieron un nombre a nivel mundial . Algo que ningún colombiano ha hecho

    Valderrama quedo elegido en torneos y a nivel continental como mejor jugador por encima de Maradona , francescoli y Romario.

    Asprilla queod de tercero en una premiación de FIFA World player. Los sudamericanos no podían aspirar a golden ball en esa época .

    Antes de acabar con el prestigio de una generación que es lo que hace crzd , por qué no miran como ha cambiado el contexto del fútbol mundial y los obstáculos se han transformado . Antes un jugador sudamericano no neceusarilabte tenía que salir del continente para triunfar



    Y si esta selección tampoco ha ganado nada , y no veo ganándoles ni de local a la actual subcampeona ddl mundo Argentina , así está en la peor de sus crisis .


    Falcao , asprilla, james , Valderrama , cuadrado , Rincon son grandes y siempre van ser una autoridad en este tema en Colombia . El único que acá siempre trata de quitarles crédito es crzd
     
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  19. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    the funny part is the he makes himself a victim and reports you . it's not worth it
     
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  20. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    the point is that Valderrama was a complete different player than James and Aprilla was different than Falcao. I've never heard Colombians talk crappie on James or Falcao but the 90s team was something else. I've heard the same from people of many different backgrounds say the same. just because you couldn't play fifa back then doesn't mean they were trSh and didn't exist in the football world .
     
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  21. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yo no sé pero tiene una obsesión , de desmeritando a esa generación para resaltar a esta como si hubiera una rivalidad o algo así .
     
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  22. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    agreed ..
     
  23. jay luis

    jay luis Member+

    Sep 14, 2013
    Corona, Nyc
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    anyway there's no Valderrama vs James thing . I'm sure most Colombians are happy they are colombian and they both had a positive impact in Colombian football history . both different kind of midfielders and style of play in my eyes
     
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  24. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    Right on. I'll add to this. Even with no internet or FIFA gameplay (the way it is today), those guys made a name for Colombia. This was a time where media was still not global. Yet, they still got huge recognition for what was a great team with humble resources. They PAVED the way for many future Colombian generations.

    Are the athletes today much stronger faster maybe even better? Surely. But that's not the point. You can't live in a vacuum like CZD. You have to respect that at that time Colombia had ZERO name in the international scape. Specially in a time when Pablo Escobar and Colombia were one in the same. Where violence was all that folks associated with Colombia. That generation of futboleros gave ALL Colombianos pride and hope for more. People that have no reference and respect for the past have no reality in the present.
     
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  25. lvbeto

    lvbeto Member

    Jul 27, 2007
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Crazed, I know you are young and it shows when you post a lot of times.

    There's just no way you can forget that generation. I consider myself lucky enough to remember both teams, the 90s and this current generation. Is one better? It doesn't really matter to me honestly. Both were great for Colombia.

    I'm 43 so when you get to my age, you'll still be talking about how great James was in your day. Hopefully that team in 20 years will be even better than this team. In 94, I was 21 and lucky enough to be in Pasadena for that USA-Colombia game. Impossible for me to try to convince myself that moment never happened.

    Oh and as for Pele, who are you kidding? He'd be a god in this generation too.
    And I'm not trying to insult or shame you. Just, you will see young man, haha.
     
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