News: Saturday , June 24, 2017

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Jun 24, 2017.

  1. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. hot potato

    hot potato Member+

    Feb 21, 2014
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    MLS expansion: Will four viable bids even emerge on road to 28?

    the simple answer is - YES- i count sacramento, tampa bay, san antonio, phoenix, and cincinatti that will be in the immediate mix for #25-26 by the end of 2017

    #27-28 contenders for 2018-2019 will be any city left over from these 2 above spots plus nashville and another city or 2 that will have its stuff together to be a serious contender, such as san diego depending on the referendum in november, 2018, and st lou that somehow will have to find the $60 mill to get back in the race

    after 2022, i think there will be a push for #29-30- the franchise money will be just too enticing not to do it
     
  3. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good.

    I wouldn't be in favor of stopping the game JUST to look at a potential card for a dive. But if you're already looking at a potential penalty or red card situation, and you see a dive as a part of that review... absolutely. Break out the yellow.
     
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  5. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Why go beyond 24? Once you get past that number, you start having troubled franchises that are constantly threatening to move. And from an MLS point of view, 24 fits perfectly with the 34-game schedule - two conferences of 12 teams, play conference opponents twice and noon-conference once. Once you get past that number, suddenly you have to go to some NFL schedule where fans won't see certain players at all in some years.

    Move the Crew to Cincinnati, maybe add a Florida team and stop.
     
  6. BakedAlaskan

    BakedAlaskan Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Ancho-RAGE,Alaska
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's already two teams set for Florida, two in Texas and three in California. I'd rather see the league continue to spread out in the US and maybe one more in Canada.
     
  7. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are no more cities of significant size in Canada. There are two more markets each in California, Texas, and Florida larger than anything in Canada. (Not counting Miami.)
     
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  8. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    Making me spill my beer I'm laughing so hard Bill.

    Also, what other city in Canada could have any possible appeal for MLS?
     
  10. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't think MLS will get another Canadian City with the Canadian Premier League idea that has been floating around.

    A year ago, the CSA wanted to keep the three MLS teams in MLS and bolster a national league with teams in the other cities. They liked the stability MLS provided while they tried to establish a national league.

    The next biggest markets would be Calgary, Ottawa, Edmonton, and Quebec City. I don't know if any of those cities are MLS ready. A big problem will be weather early in the season.
     
  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City

    The only chance of a fourth Canadian team would be a second team in Toronto/Mississuaga/Golden Horseshoe. But since the NHL hasn't yet figured out how to appease the Leafs and do that, I'm not holding my breath with MLS.

    And given how weird MLS Cup was last year with the paucity of presence of the league corporate sponsors - many with limited presence in Canada - tells me the hurdles of a fourth potential Canadian team are pretty much insurmountable.
     
  12. BakedAlaskan

    BakedAlaskan Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Ancho-RAGE,Alaska
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    City 2016 estimate
    1 New York[6] New York 8,537,673
    2 Los Angeles California 3,976,322
    3 Chicago Illinois 2,704,958
    4 Houston[7] Texas 2,303,482
    5 Phoenix Arizona 1,615,017
    6 Philadelphia[8] Pennsylvania 1,567,872
    7 San Antonio Texas 1,492,510
    8 San Diego California 1,406,630
    9 Dallas Texas 1,317,929
    10 San Jose California 1,025,350
    11 Austin Texas 947,890
    12 Jacksonville[9] Florida 880,619
    13 San Francisco[10] California 870,887
    14 Columbus Ohio 860,090
    15 Indianapolis[11] Indiana 855,164
    16 Fort Worth Texas 854,113
    17 Charlotte North Carolina 842,051
    18 Seattle Washington 704,352
    26 Portland Oregon 639,863
    35 Sacramento California 495,234
    38 Atlanta Georgia 472,522
    42 Miami Florida 453,579
    52 Tampa Florida 377,165
    65 Cincinnati Ohio 298,800
    66 Anchorage Alaska 298,192
    73 Orlando Florida 277,173
    157 Frisco Texas 163,656

    City, eh? Population in 2016
    1 Toronto, Ontario 5,429,524
    2 Montreal, Quebec 3,519,595
    3 Vancouver, British Columbia 2,264,823
    4 Calgary, Alberta 1,237,656
    5 Edmonton, Alberta 1,062,643
    6 OttawaGatineau, Ontario/Quebec 989,657
    7 Winnipeg, Manitoba 711,925
    8 Quebec City, Quebec 705,103

    Cincinnati seems like a sure thing now . . . how did that look three years ago? I mentioned that it would be great if Cincinnati ever got a team when Beckham signed a decade ago(I was born near Cincy) and was told "No operator investor and Ohio already has a team" so now four or five in Cali, three in Texas and three in Florida is acceptable. I'm not calling for a 4th team in Canada, to hell with those southern pussies, I was just saying I'd rather have a 4th in Canada before more in those other three states.
     
  13. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    City limit population, which is what this list shows at least for the U.S., is pretty well useless. Cities have fairly arbitrary boundaries that don't really reflect how people live. It is also biased toward newer cities especially in the SunBelt that were able to push their boundaries out a long way because there weren't any other cities in the way. I used to live within the city limits of Houston but I was 27 air miles from downtown. It would be hard to find a city in the Midwest or Northeast where that would be true.

    CSA, MSA, or Nielsen TV market area rankings are much more useful but even then it is hard to compare the U.S. and Canada since different definitions are used.
     
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