Saturday 8 Dec 2018

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. Adiaga_2

    Adiaga_2 Member

    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, Johnson did score the winning goal against Mexico in the game that clinched the USA's trip to the 2014 World Cup.

     
  2. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    To be fair a single game doesn't clinch the world cup birth. Seems there are 9 other games played in the Hex and many others in the round before.
     
  3. Adiaga_2

    Adiaga_2 Member

    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #28 Adiaga_2, Dec 11, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2018

    I don't disagree but one could argue that "took my country to a World Cup" is just a figure of speech that happens to apply in this case. Of course the same could be said of the American pilot that flew the USA team plane to Brazil.

    EDIT: I would also argue that a single game does in fact "clinch" a World Cup berth. That phrase would never be used in the first round of qualifying. It's pretty specifically used for just that one particular game when the team secures its spot.
     
    JasonMa and aztec21bas repped this.
  4. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    It takes all the points to get there...not just a single one.
    If any of the other games had not gone the way they did then the Mexico game could EASILY not been the deciding game. Based on the rest of his words, he thinks very highly of himself and sounds like he chose his works intentionally and really thinks he got the team there.
     
  5. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chicago FIRE
    2010 10th out of 16 teams (No playoffs)
    2011 11th out of 18 teams (No playoffs)
    2012 6th out of 19 teams (Lost in the pay in game)
    2013 12th out of 19 teams (No playoffs)
    2014 15th out of 19 teams (No playoffs)
    2015 20th out of 20 teams (Wooden Spoon)
    2016 20th out of 20 teams (Wooden Spoon, first ever back to back winners)
    2017 3rd out of 22 teams (One and out) Thanks to help from the league and all the TAM/GAM we had to use because it was going to expire
    2018 20th out of 23 teams (No playoffs)
     
  6. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congratulations on doing to reading what Morris' contract does to fiscal sanity. There are two issues here, Beautiful Mind. The first is Morris' contract as it stands in the current era. The second is the appreciation of what can run through someone's heart as that ol' "time and chance that happens to us all" casts the die against you.

    The difference of eras is an instance of the second. Tough luck, guy, if you were the last person to die of a tooth infection before the advent of public use of antibiotics, or the last kid to get polio just before the vaccines were made available, or the last poor blighter shot in World War I just before the Armistice became official. It happens..... Yet we can sympathize with that guy, that kid, that poor blighter for that sharp cut of Fortuna's Wheel. Although you have every right, Nashy, to pick up your marbles and stomp off sneering at 'em. Own your own truth, eh?
    On the other hand that a striker who has one foot capable of getting off a decent shot, is coming off a season killing ACL, and has been merely reasonable as a starter, has earned a jump from roughly 200,000 to over a million, from one year to the next, is a truth that escapes the clink and clank of your marbles. Even if Daddy is connected.
     

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