San Diego 1904 FC expansion thread

Discussion in 'NASL Expansion' started by XaviusX, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    I'm not sure why he had a hard on for either the Atoms or Fury. They both where among the worst attended teams in old NASL. Also before the Union announced their name barely any fans where voting to revive either brand. So I'd say both brands are good as dead in this city. The ASL aren't going to win over any fans by naming teams after them.
     
  2. New_York_Cosmos

    New_York_Cosmos Red Card

    Nov 10, 2010
    Monza
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Country:
    Italy
    Sorry but I don't agree about Atoms, in 1973 and 1974 they averaged about 11000 people per match, which was not bad at all for the times, and if they did not mean anything explain me then why in 2013 the players of '73 have been called to Union Stadium for the 40th annversary of Dallas' final
     
  3. New_York_Cosmos

    New_York_Cosmos Red Card

    Nov 10, 2010
    Monza
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Country:
    Italy
    Fury did not average much because they were a shitty team not because of their brand
     
  4. New_York_Cosmos

    New_York_Cosmos Red Card

    Nov 10, 2010
    Monza
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Country:
    Italy
    I agree with you about ASL, that league is a joke and I hope they will soon close shop
     
  5. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Levittown, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    Paying tribute to former teams in the area just like the Steel. You can disagree all you want, but I'm telling you people in this area don't relate to those teams. That's why the Atoms and Fury names no longer have any weight. Hell, the final four names voted for the Union where A.C. Philadelphia, Philadelphia City, S.C. Philadelphia, & Philadelphia Union. But, I suppose someone from Italy is more in the know then someone from the Philly area, lol.
     
  6. New_York_Cosmos

    New_York_Cosmos Red Card

    Nov 10, 2010
    Monza
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Country:
    Italy
    Ok I get what you mean and ok if people like those names good for them, but to me they are hideous, the Union was the one who is at least decent but how can people like these cheap imitations of european names? Paying tribute means respecting the roots and all, so they still have their weight even if people don't relate to them because they didn't last long
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    You want to "pay tribute," build a ********ing statue.
     
  8. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
  9. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Definitely nice for a change. Hopefully Wilt's meetings with leaders in Escondido and Oceanside go well. They were supposed to meet with Escondido at the very least last week to discuss sites, possibly near the Escondido Transit Center (which would put the stadium right off the 15 and 78 as well as the Sprinter). As well as a meeting with Oceanside. I've not seen any articles on how either of those meetings went.
     
  10. Ben7

    Ben7 Member

    Jan 14, 2007
    thumbleweeds... no news in a while, anyone hear rumors or do you simply expect no news until the end of the year at least when SD votes and MLS decides, even if NASL usually doesn't care what MLS does?
     
  11. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Country:
    United States
    Official San Diego NASL news is very close from what I understand.
     
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  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Yep that's my understanding as well. OC and SD are close to being announced.
     
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  13. Ben7

    Ben7 Member

    Jan 14, 2007
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
  16. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Can't tell if that's a promotion of demotion for San Diego Zest from their current place in USL PDL.
     
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  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Country:
    United States
    since this is announced as a pro team, you could logically have the amateur team still playing in the PDL and the pro team join Yan...
     
  18. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    The UPSL considers a team pro if they pay a player $50 to play one game for them.

    Thats not how I see Pro vs Amateur.
     
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  19. SteveUSSF_ref8

    LA Galaxy
    Canada
    Oct 25, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Country:
    United States
    After yesterday the stage is set for the NASL to make is move into San Diego. I'm on board, bring back the San Diego Jaws, I'm ready!
     
  20. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Everything we were told this was a done deal, they were just wanting to space out the announcements. I feel like this has been spaced out long enough, so why not announcement?
     
  21. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    Because MLS investors aren't done yet. Declaring SD as free and clear very risky for NASL or USL.
     
  22. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    How so? The NASL team was never going to really be in direct competition with the NASL team being up in Escondido or Oceanside. Their announcement shouldn't be predicated on what MLS is going to or not going to do in that regard.

    And if they're going to announce for maximum effect with the super region beyond the North County, this would be the prime opportunity to take as MLS in SD is all but dead at this point through at least the next 4 slots. Maybe we'll have another shot at 29 or 30. The NASL team in the interim is positioned to pick up at least a few fans from areas outside North County now that wouldn't otherwise have been engaged with them... provided they don't dally and give those fans time to glom onto something else to fill the void MLS in SD just left.
     
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  23. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    Well then, I say go for it. If starting a team where 2 MLS clubs and an existing USL team exist doesn't deter them then 1 potential MLS club won't bother their business plan.

    I don't think MLS in SD is as dead as you think.
     
  24. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Country:
    United States
    Well your first part is a big part of why I think they just need to up and announce already. It's a potential MLS club 30+ miles away from where they've proposed putting the NASL team. They're not going to be direct competitors anyway. But even if they were... so what? Hasn't stopped NASL from putting teams in far worse situations in the last 12 months to fill out their skeleton of a league. I mean OC and SF were both far more precarious places to have dropped teams given the situations in those markets.
     
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  25. oneeyedfool

    oneeyedfool Member+

    Nov 17, 2012
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Country:
    United States
    Should be within the next week
     

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