Rumor: Sam Allardyce in the mix for US MNT manager

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by skim172, Oct 17, 2017.

  1. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Per ESPN (link):

     
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  2. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    My opinion: Pass.

    He's a relegation specialist. He's never really shown ability to actually advance a team beyond mere survival. In my opinion, he's one of that group of English coaches who just hop from one failing club to another, never really accomplishing anything, but are celebrated and become relevant for doing nothing but achieving the bare minimum as a Premier League manager.

    He's like that weird creepy guy who lives in the woods. His survival tips will keep you alive if you're lost in the wilderness, but that doesn't mean you should go to him for life advice.
     
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  3. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    We could have used a relegation specialist this year.
     
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  4. iad_22201

    iad_22201 Member+

    Jan 2, 2009
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, 4 straight seasons managing a relatively small club to 8th or better finishes in the PL plus an appearance in Europe (after leading that same club to promotion). I'm not advocating for the guy, but the above statement simply isn't true.
     
  5. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    He's shown zero commitment in his career to find a partner for Michael Bradley. I'll pass since that's the way forward.
     
  6. jmplautz

    jmplautz Member

    Jul 28, 2007
    Madison
    There's a reason that the top teams in England don't use English managers. Pass.
     
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  7. Ironbound

    Ironbound Member+

    Jul 1, 2009
    At least our job is more attractive than Scotland's.
     
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  8. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    please no.
     
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  9. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    BHM
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has never lost a match as an international manager.:laugh:
     
  10. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who would be considering him?
     
  11. JHickman

    JHickman Member

    Jun 7, 2009
    Southeast
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dear God save us
     
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  12. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    I know this is merely a rumor about Allardyce being interested in the position, but even if you were to entertain the idea of him being hired, this is a perfect example of why the powers that be need to be patient and not rush to hire anyone. He's certainly a capable coach, but there are two big reasons not to seriously consider Allardyce: everyone knows at this point that he's crooked, and hiring a middle-of-the-road English manager sends the wrong message.

    I think this is a great opportunity for the U.S. to be creative and aim high. Allardyce probably would've been good in the role Arena filled trying to stabilize things and get one specific squad to the World Cup. However, I don't necessarily see someone like him as the guy to re-energize things like people want. There's a lot of time before the national team plays matches that count toward something, so be patient, name an interim manager, figure out what you want/need to accomplish during this "dead" period, and then once you've figured that out then ID full-time candidates.
     
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  13. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please, God, no.
     
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  14. Clover362

    Clover362 Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Oct 12, 2017
    The US needs a coach that can a) repair the US defensively (which is what actually cost the US points in the Hex) and b) brings enough credibility/gravitas to get the type of effort and commitment psychologically from the players the US used to be overflowing with by default. Big Sam could do a but I'm not sure he could do b.
     
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  15. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    BHM
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He said back in July that he only wants an international side. No more club jobs. FWIW.
     
  16. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    Must be a slow news day...only ESPN would float a lousy rumor for this journeyman coach. The old boy network never knew a better candidate.
     
  17. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    the way I look at it, this would be a "dycey" move...
     
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  18. nathala

    nathala Member

    Aug 26, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    It's scary because the USSF top guy like Gulati does not know to evaluate talent coach and I'm pretty sure the guy don't even know much about soccer as well.
     
  19. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As if Lletget weren't disheartened enough by the U.S. missing the World Cup.

    Sounds like a great idea. What we need to make up for a manager from America who let the team get too old and stagnant...is one who is the poster child for it in Europe.
     
  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    It's ridiculous to float "rumors" about this or that candidate being in the loop when Gulati is still at the helm.

    The new President has to select the permanent replacement for Arena.
     
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  21. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    I'd forgotten about his time with Bolton. He wasn't completely terrible with West Ham, too.

    I still think he's not a good candidate.

    I should've re-worded the title of this thread - the article is more that Allardyce is interested, not that he's being considered. His agents may be just trying to float his name for open positions.

    Though I wonder why he wouldn't be interested in Scotland. Doesn't like the weather?
     
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  22. nathala

    nathala Member

    Aug 26, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    It makes sense, however, the guy hasn't called it quits yet so there's a chance he'd be reelected as a President for another term and that's why I'm worry about as a fan.
     
  23. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think the uss brass is going to empower him to offer another long-term contract after he biffed the last 2. At least that's true until he's reelected. Cross that bridge when we come to it.

    If they have sense they shouldn't care about his cases that he's involved with bidding for a future Cup and has made some tv deals that were more favorable than before. Not like he created the infrastructure of the United States itself and is responsible for the expansion of media options this century.
     
  24. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    I would be for it. The guy knows how to organize and motivate.

    Guardiola isn't walking through the door.

    We need, maybe for the first time ever, a clearly competent manager. I'd take Allardyce over any current MLS manager.

    People will say Martino. Well, ok, I guess.

    And, what foreign manager is going to come?

    If we could get Martinez, that would be good. There was an article that said Blanc was interested. That would be fine, too.

    Bielsa? Great.

    Hiddink might be too old.

    But, I'd be fine with us getting Allardyce.
     
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  25. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Pass. Want a smart, young, savvy, creative coach, outside the box.

    Weird rumor because this would create zero positive buzz.
     

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