Road to Brazil 2016 (Olympics)

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by HomietheClown, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    ---------------Montero

    Tello? -Vergara- EderBalanta-Palomeque

    --------------Celis-----Perez-----------

    --------------Juanfer--- Lukumi---

    -------------Renteria ---Cordoba



    Opinions?
    Baal?
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Colombia
    Your 3 over 23?

    Can Pekerman coach this team please. Make him coach the Copa America ans this. Rest repo sucks
     
  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    I have no idea. I just want to win the Playoff. Then figure out who the manager will be. Then talk about the over age -23 players.
     
  4. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Colombia
    Who do we play against?

    We cant use 3 over 23 players for that?

    I wonder if we will have U23 friendlies like Mexico did last time around
     
  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    3rd Place of the CONCACAF U23 Tournament in October will be our opponent.

    We can't use over age players for that.

    We should play friendlies just like Mexico did, but who knows? This is really new territory for our federation.
     
  6. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Mar 25, 2011
    Lemoore, CA
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Colombia
    As far as I know, because this isn't a senior tournament, clubs do have the right to disallow their players regardless of age. Happened to Messi who had to talk to the board and Chicharito wasn't allowed by Man United.
     
  7. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    This is true.

    It will be interesting to see which managers allow which players to go.
     
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  8. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Tabarez took helm of the sub 23 in the last Olympics. Dunga and Menezes did the same for Brazil in the previous 2 editions, although Brazil didn't have to go through the qualifiers for 2014 so Mano had nothing better to do. Bielsa won the 2004 tournament while also coaching the senior squad.

    Nothing set in stone. The Centenario puts things in doubt. Sure, that takes place in June while the Olympics will be in August, but how will that effect the Qualifiers? Typically the Fifa dates were in June--now what?

    What might be interesting is if Pekerman decides to use practically the same squad for both tournaments. Doubt it, but who knows?

    It's impossible to tell as of now. The only thing I know is Pekerman is a true professional and doesn't go about any of his responsibilities half-assed. Those are three major tournaments going on in close proximity. Tons of work and, potentially, 3 different squads to worry about. Put Pekerman in charge of the sub 23 and I'd put my money on Colombia winning the whole thing. The priority in his eyes, no doubt, will be the qualifiers and the senior squad, though.
     
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  9. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Country:
    Colombia
    Totally agree with Azucarero. It's way too early to know, but if you ask me, the qualifiers and the Copa America should come first. We have enough talented players to cover them for the olympics, surely in the playoff, but I think that the senior missions come first and that's the way it should be. Of course it would be great to see an U-23 team mixed with 3 seniors and after we'll finish to take the Copa, we'll move into the Olympics ;)
     
  10. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Colombia
    That's what I am saying use the 3 over 23 players as 2nd stringers that should start for the NT but don't yet.

    Like Jackson if he can replicate his Porto form in Yellow at the Olympics that would be awesome if not then never call him up again. Vargas or Cuadrado at goal. Then who ever our 3rd CB is at the time to lead the defense.

    I mean I'd love to win both Copa Americas and the Olympics. I prefer Copa America Chile to go to the confederations cup and the gold medal in Brazil personally. The 100th edition Copa America will most likely not be taken too seriously by South American teams
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    I doubt Porto (or whoever he plays for next summer) would release Jackson for the Olympics and the Copa America Centenario.
    Would probably have a better chance of calling up someone like Fredy Montero.
     
  12. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Mar 25, 2011
    Lemoore, CA
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Colombia
    They have to for the Centenario if called upon by FIFA but yeah Olympics is really up to the clubs which I hope does go well In our favor.
     
  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    Yup.
    Hence, I said I doubt Jackson will be allowed to go for two tournaments that summer. Assuming he does get called up for Centenario.
    So many variables to consider.
     
  14. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Country:
    Colombia
    A mi me gusta mucho la base de esta sub 20, los centrales y Jeison Angulo por la izquierda me parecen muy buenos, por la derecha Tello puede ser opción, pero ojala haya algo mejor en los proximos meses. Los dos mediocampistas son lo mejor que hay en estos momentos en Colombia, y eso es como triste, asi que esos serian los titulares sin duda. Yo iria con Borré como delantero centro y extremos bien ofensivos, Lucumi por derecha y Renteria por la izquierda e intercambiando posiciones durante el partido entre ellos y con Borré, con Quintero por el centro.
     
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  15. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    Any kids in Colombia we are missing? Maybe some 21 year olds who were not given any chance in these last two sub 20s?
     
  16. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Country:
    Colombia
    A mi me gusta mucho Lerma del Huila, que seria la unica opción que veo clara como volante de contención aparte de Perez y Celis. De delanteros me parece que Miguel Murillo del Cali puede ser una opción, es un tanque y con gol. Ojala el tecnico que lleve esta selección ponga a Balanta de DM, a mi me parece que ese es el sitio en el que Colombia lo deberia utilizar, de central es muy bueno, pero como DM aportaria dinamismo y recuperación en esa zona en la que tenemos demasiados problemas.
     
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  17. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    Oswal Alvarez and Juan Jose Navarez should have some consideration if their Euro clubs allow them to leave.
     
  18. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    I expect a few kids will pop up who slipped through the cracks.

    Carbonero seemingly came out of nowhere. Izquierdo hardly played any role at all with the '91 generation. Cuellar became a beast not too long after getting left out of that mundial squad. Mojica,too. Not that any of these guys qualify for the Olympics, but it's becoming more and more common for kids to emerge and succeed without having any sub 20 or sub 17 credentials on their resumes.
     
  19. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Country:
    Colombia
    si, eso pienso yo, en la B, y en los equipos con menos prestigio hay muchos jugadores que no son llevados, por ejemplo Lucumí juega con el America y antes en el Depor Aguablanca y el man esta entre los 5 mejores jugadores del campeonato, ayer Miguel Medina, uno de los mejores jugadores de la copa sub 19 en Colombia y subcampeon con Cortulua anotó 2 goles contra Pasto y ya lleva 3 goles en 2 partidos, tiene 19 años y juega como mediapunta o extremo por izquierda.
     
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  20. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Country:
    Colombia
    Y lo de izquierdo es una tristeza, ese man a mi siempre me pareció un crack, me acuerdo en un Toulon desastroso en 2011 o 2010 que este Lara lo convocó, pero decidió poner a Javier Calle (un man que no es malo, pero tampoco es que sea la gran vaina) en vez de Izquierdo que habia jugado mucho mas en Pereira, y los pocos minutos que jugó destacó incluso mas que Muriel.
     
  21. Azucarero

    Azucarero Member+

    May 9, 2008
    Just saw the highlights. Damn...

    Since 2007-2009 I'd become pretty disillusioned by the amount of talented kids who'd start tearing up the Liga just months after embarrassing displays from Colombia in the Sudamericano. Kids like Montero, Mejia, Cuadrado, Vladimir Hernandez would go on to be top players in FPC and never got a look at from Lara or whichever other federation clown.

    It's worrisome. Who knows where some of those kids might be had they have gotten that extra bit of exposure? Who knows what those teams may have accomplished with a couple better players? I mean, look at the difference 3 kids (James, Muriel, and Murillo) made for Colombia in 2011.

    Nowadays, even though there're glaring omissions like the kids you've mentioned, the sheer amount of talent produced across the country makes it almost impossible to catch every kid. I still find the selecciones juveniles to be extremely important, especially for our country, but at least it's not the end all be all for a kids career anymore.

    Brazil don't give a damn about these categories anymore. They don't need to. Perhaps we on't need to either one day, but that can be both good and bad.
     
  22. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Country:
    Colombia
    True

    Pekerman not only ,are these guys better but I think he changed the pessimistic mentality of most Colombians. The shirts weighed less for the players to perform better
     
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  23. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Country:
    Colombia
    #23 Baal88, Feb 8, 2015
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2015
    Tambien ten en cuenta algo de Piscis, puede que el man sea chambon en sus decisiones, pero si hay algo que no dudo es que le gustan los jugadores talentosos y de pausa, Lara solo llevaba negrones y carrolocos, esta seleccion tambien tiene carrolocos, y aunque no son ni muy altos ni fuertes, al menos si tienen sensibilidad en los pies y algunos la pasan con mucho criterio. Lara es mas de la escuela de futbol de Jorge Luis Pinto ("biotipo", pata y faltas a dos manos) , mientras que Piscis es mas Maturanesco (toque y volante 10), bueh, ya pensandolo bien, esta ahí a mitad de camino entre ambos.
     
  24. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Sep 4, 2010
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    Castillo, Pardo, Mendoza and Mojica are too old for the Olympics. I mean I suppose they can be considered for the three over-age players but you can only take three of those.
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Country:
    Colombia
    tenemos una desventaja para este partido

    vamos a jugar contra un equipo de la concacaf en febrero de 2016, cuando este equipo viene de jugar un torneo de preolimpico en 2016 .............donde posiblemente ya va estar mas acoplado
     
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