Revs Sign Free Agent D Seth Sinovic

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  1. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
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    Not quite the kind of defender I had in mind, but...

     
  2. BrianLBI

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    Sep 7, 2002
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  3. firstshirt

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    Mar 1, 2000
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    They do need bench players. Unless Buttner is going to play CB the team only has three players that can fill that role. I have to think Bruce brings in another CB
     
  4. firstshirt

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    He was a damn good player.....3 years ago
     
  5. BtianGockley

    BtianGockley New Member

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    I always liked him, and thought it was short-sighted of Nicol to let go a young natural left footed defender. He was excellent for KC for several years.
     
  6. rkupp

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    Jan 3, 2001
    I've always felt that Nicol probably let him go because of discipline issues (or maybe, more generally, differing philosophies).

    It was clear that he was a good player at a position of need. I don't think he was let go because he couldn't do the job, my assumption is that he was let go because he wouldn't do it the way Nicol wanted it done. No factual basis for this - I just wasn't able to imagine any other more plausible theory.
     
  7. teskicks

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    Jan 14, 2002
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    The story I heard was that he wanted to go home and was going to retire so the released him and he signed with his hometown team.
     
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  8. Minutemanii

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    So all these years I've been laboring under the delusion that we ham-handedly and unceremoniously left him unprotected? :)
     
  9. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
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    I labored under the delusion he was cut because Nicol signed a broken down Frenchman to play left back.
     
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  10. BtianGockley

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    That's what I thought, that he was being let go for a more experienced player. And what was that Frenchman's name again?
     
  11. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

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    I think there were two Frenchmen that year, one was Didier Domi.
     
  12. firstshirt

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    #12 firstshirt, Dec 18, 2019
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    If i recall he was given a raise, signed an extension and weeks later released at his request
     
  13. VTSoccerFan

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    Jun 28, 2002
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    The other was Ousmane Dabo.
     
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  14. Minutemanii

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    :ROFLMAO:
     
  15. rkupp

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    I'm not doubting you, but that seems rather baffling. A 23, 24-y.o. professional soccer player would rather retire than live away from him home area? If he wasn't playing, maybe I could understand, but he had a good number of starts early in his career and was doing well. OTOH, people do have personal problems/issues and that's no one's business than their own. Whatever, that's history now. If it did happen like that, maybe his signing here had something to do with feeling like he owed NE something (or maybe it was just the best offer).
     
  16. Argyle

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    Jan 31, 2002
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    Fun Fact: Seth Sinovic is now the same age as that broken down Frenchman was when the Revs signed him.
     
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  17. rkane1226

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    What I recall is he negotiated (the best deal he could) and signed but the salary was (in his opinion) to low to viably live on. So, he asked to be exposed so he could go to KC. I don’t know how but apparently he made it known that he’d retire if he couldn’t work/play close to home where he could control costs (share a family dwelling, lower cost of living...)
     
  18. ToMhIlL

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    My memory is fuzzy on the details, but you guys are talking as if KC was an expansion team with him being left unprotected. Wasn't he released and KC picked him up? Some early form of free agency?

    Hey, if Andy Dorman can live with a local family like a 16-year old and earn $30-40k for 4 years so can he!
     
  19. rkane1226

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    I forget the details but something like that. Once he made it clear he would retire, the Revs got out of the way (instead of paying more?) and he wound up close to home.

    I’m guessing HE didn’t want to live like Dorman (any more).
     
  20. Crooked

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    I don't think it's 100% clear what went wrong with Sinovic during his first stint with the Revs. He played in 20 games, but was waived. He went on to trial with RSL (not offered a contract) before signing with his hometown team, SKC. SKC left him exposed in the 2011 expansion draft and he was selected by Montreal. He apparently threatened to retire rather than playing for Montreal and was traded back to SKC only a couple of days later.
     
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  21. davidRN

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    Andy may have earned $30-40K, but Seth may have still been at the older, much lower rate. My son (35 years old now) played GK for the Rapids reserves more than a dozen years ago. He never got called up to the majors, or cut, just trained and was working in his field of study. He had $80K in student debt, and we talked about what we would have to do to help him out if he did sign a pro contract. The starting pay that years was $17,500, but, they had a house the players could live in(for free). Seth is only a little younger, its possible his pay was in that range, and Boston rentals were just to much for his salary.
     
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  22. ToMhIlL

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    Thanks for the insight. I know a lot of the younger guys didn't make a lot of money, and since a lot of them had college degrees, they probably could have made more in the "real" world. But who wants to do that if you can play sports for a living> Seriously, I can see some guys giving it a shot, but at some point you have to be able to make a living, otherwise you give it up. Good that the team provided living quarters, since that's likely the single most expensive thing you'd pay for. And the players would make extra money doing promotional appearances and clinics, etc.

    Still, it's good to see that the minimum salary is much better now. Not like some of the other sports, but at least a decent wage for a young guy to make.

    I just hope that when MLS is really big and the rank and file guys are making big money that they will put aside some money for the pioneers who worked for nothing in the early years and make it all possible for them. Unfortunately, the NBA players union did NOT do this for the guys who played in the 50s and 60s, before they made big money.
     
  23. firstshirt

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    Pretty sure after his rookie year he was given a pay raise. Though it is possible that it was not enough
     
  24. firstshirt

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    Seth was making league minimum of 40k his rookie year 2010. 2007 Dormans last year before he went overseas made 30,870. When he returned on 2013 he signed for 125,000. Seth was making 143,000 last year. My guess he is probably making less right now, probably around 100-115k range
     
  25. Argyle

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