right now the AFC is way too large. the OFC has only one legit team. this needs to be fixed. Adding australia would help but it would mean only 2 teams dominating. if they added australia, indonesia and the rest of southeast asian and indochina we would have a good new confederation. at least the maylasian-indonesian region. Also taking the teams from the AFC in the middle east as well as UEFA teams like turkey, azerbajan, georiga, baku, and israel, as well as possibly egypt from CAF. FIFA could make a new middle easter confederation.
AFC is hardly any bigger than UEFA. Seems your concern is that OFC is small, so you want to move ASEAN members into OFC which simply doesn't work. If you do that, might aswell take EAFF aswell. In fact, EAFF might aswell join it since you then create another confederation that is taking nations currently in UEFA, AFC and CAF which leaves what of the AFC left? Nothing. Great idea brains. And you currently know what of the AFC and OFC to think of this dream idea now? Let's not forget youth football and club football in OFC have sprung up recent surprises, so the one legit team is who now?
Seriously? who else besides New Zealand would be able to compete at a world cup? i wasn't saying it's what they should do, you could just merge AFC and OFC, that would work, but it's certantly got a big land area.
I doubt anyone from OFC other than NZ could compete at a world cup, but the fact is, look at the regional football, other nations are catching them in the OFC region. Thaiti made youth cup, a team from PNG won the OFC Club Championship. OFC isn't all that bad really. But you want to join OFC with ASEAN for what reason? You say one legit team in OFC, so why would ASEAN members join it then? Brians again. And then you say merge AFC with OFC. Again, for what reasons?
Something needs to be done to strenghthen or dissolve the OFC it's miles beyond any other confederation. australia left and several other members are contemplating a similar move, even putting australia back in would do but putting asean in a well would be better and even merging it with afc would provide a very strong mega Conffederation.
I never understood why East Asian countries were grouped together with the Middle Eastern countries. We are culturally very different, in both football and not so football related matters, and geographically disconnected. It makes more sense for sense for Arabic nations [and some Central Asian countries] to be paired with their North African cousins. If the members of West Asian Football Federation and North African Football federation join together to form its own Greater Middle East confederation, AFC will get small enough to take on the Oceanic nations.
No ones forced anyone to be a member of anything. You say you don't know why east asia is grouped with west asia but then why would it be any different for east asia to join with ofc? Look at Europe as well, you could use the same arguments for east and west Europe. Back to Afc, no one maybe complains, no one asks for ofc to join Afc either. Each nation can do as they wish in their best interests.
Generally speaking, it's already in half in the first stages of everything it does, also at the developing nations, the structure for competitive football works well, splitting it would just kill the development.
You can't just put Australia back in, they weren't forced out, they went on their own accord and would have to reapply to get back in, but how would that strengthen he ofc? It wouldn't, it would put it back years once again. I don't personally know why u opened this thread asking about reorganisation of Afc and ofc when all u really mean is that the ofc is poor, of which it isn't half as poor as you actually think. Not one nation walks away with everything at every level like u assume. Places at youth events are guaranteed and a place in the cwc is as well, so ofc do actually have it quite good for the little nations who wouldn't have a cat in hells chance in anything else. If you want reorganisation, I would say look to concacaf as a priority. Mexico run that in everything that happens
You think that the OFC is better than CONCACAP? the US is usually as good as mexico and there is a few good central american teams as well. How would Fiji, PNG, or samoa do at the world cup? there is a reason that the winner of OFC world cup qualifying has to play the 4th best CONCACAF just to get in and they might lose. Australia and New zealand are the only nations to ever win the OFC nations cup. and only once has a team from outside Australia or New Zealand won the OFC champions league.
So your mean focus is on international football really. You don't say much about club football really in ofc and Afc. Yes, concacaf was a big stab, but do you see the picture here, you say ofc, I say concacaf, everyone has an opinion, but then to absurdly say join Afc to ofc or split Afc for the benefit of the ofc is again, absurd.
That's not a possibility, it even says its your idea and you overrule any other opinion? It's your dream, no one elses
It's been fixed. New Caledonia sorted that out!!! Pity NC can't play in world cup, so OFC isn't as bad as you make it, it's just the nations in their can't play WC.
Nah, how about 4 confederations, UEFA 13 spots, COPAFA (confederation of Pan american football associations) 8 spots, AFC (or AOFC) 5 spots, CAF 5 spots. We would have 4 bid confederation tournaments to tide us over. Panamerican cup every 4 years 2015, 2019, 2023..., Euro 2012,2016,2020..., african cup of nations 2017, 2021, 2025..., AFC asian cup, 2015, 2019, 2023...
You think that is the reason? The real reason is that CONCACAF coward out, having to confront CONMEBOL`s Fifth team and getting beaten once again, so their corrupt crooks "Chuckie and Warner", went up to talk to their comrade mob leader, Sepp, and got from him that "draw thing", that put them against OFC for that spot in the WC, for this time, as it hasn`t been settled that it will happen again for the next WC`s to come, after 2014. In the past, it was OFC whom played for that spot against CONMEBOL, and they never complained on the issue, and doing it so, they even won it once. While CONCACAF chickened out.
That is not relevant at all, what is relevant it that the Winner of the OFC has to play a game against someone else weather it be the 5th place team from the AFC or the 4th place team in CONCACAF just to get in to the world cup.
But that's because the OFC is weak and small compared to everyone else. But this doesn't mena they should be part of AFC. OFC is fine as it is. It's competitive in that little corner of the world. None of them are asking for re-organization which only ever gets shouted about from everyone outside of that confederation.
If you read the thread you will know. Apparently there's only one legit team in OFC, and they just got beat by NC.
That`s not completely true. Before coward CONCACAF appeared in scene, they had that confrontation against AFC, which is mainly what everyone tries to suggest in this topic (that they should play together with AFC), while CONCACAF had to duel on their side with CONMEBOL for a spot. This is what is relevant. But, as the cowards presented themselves in FIFA, this issue was replaced with the "draw thing", which susrprisingly put OFC playing CONCACAF, instead of AFC. In other words, conveniently, the two most weak Confederations (both full of minows), had to play each other at this phase. And now, Concacaf, don`t want to even have to face OFC (and no one else), but to get for themselves that extra spot (some even suggest taking away from Conmebol, our half spot as well), by sending OFC back to play with AFC . Funny thing, if you ask me.
I read the thread - specifically the bit where you wrote "Pity NC can't play in world cup, so OFC isn't as bad as you make it, it's just the nations in their can't play WC." The question is are you actually claiming New Caledonia aren't allowed to play in the World Cup finals? J
that comment is a bit misleading, I can only speculate what he is talking about but i can assure you that New Caledonia is eligable to compete in the world cup should they qualify as they have been FIFA members since 2004. as a matter of fact, as i type this they are attempting to qualify for the 2013 Confederations Cup in Brazil they are currenly trailing Tahiti 1-0 btw, the winner qualifies for the tournament, this is pretty exciting that a team besides australia and new zealand will represent the OFC in a major full international tournament! this is a testiment to the fact that members of the OFC have some great perks and oppertunities! imagine the 23 men selected next summer to represent a small south pacific nation agianst larger than life powers life like Brazil and Spain, it's really going to be surreal for them