REAL MADRID v REAL BETIS | La Liga - Matchday 27| 12.03.2017 | 20:45 CET

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  1. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    The question is has he continued with such behaviour? If not, he should be on RM radar.
     
  2. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Real Madrid
    I didn't know much about him but what I'm hearing here fits with how he actually looks. Thankfully we had our bid rejected.
     
  3. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Have you seen any that he is?

    Just because Navas has gone to shit doesn't mean Kiko is Casillas in his prime.
     
  4. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    Why do you have a problem with giving him the opportunity to succeed? What we know is that Navas isn't performing. We also know when Casilla played he has performed well, at least we know he's not making stupid decisions or absolute amateur hour blunders.

    I don't know why you brought up Casillas but I'd prefer Iker now to the current form Navas we have.

    Casilla deserves a chance.
     
  5. Adder

    Adder Red Card

    Sep 1, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Kiko Casilla is 30 years old. I don't know why people keep talking about him as if he is a 22 year old up-and-comer?

    You don't take "chances" on 30 year olds. At this age, you either got it, or you don't. I mean, what does it tell you about Casilla's over-all skill level that he's 30 and still hasn't done anything worth mentioning?

    With Keylor, you at least had his super season at Levante to go by.
     
  6. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    We are talking about the rest of this season. Unless you think we can being in Donnarumma tomorrow.
     
  7. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    There is a lot of exaggeration in this post. You're allowed your opinion and I'll have mine.

    Kiko hasn't been some impenetrable wall. He has conceded a lot this year as well. In my opinion Zidane is keeping Navas because he feels even an error prone shit Navas gives us a better chance.

    The hope is he will stop doing the stupid shit he has been doing which has cost us. I completely understand why he is still holding out hope....

    Then yesterday happened.


    If he makes the changes, I understand. If he doesn't it isn't becauae he is a shit coach or whatever reasons stated on this forum. It's to give him a support boast hoping he repays it back like he did at the end of the match.
     
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  8. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    By that logic then Zidane should keep playing all the out of form players in the hope that they turn their form around the next game. What's the point of competition and subs then?
     
  9. osnap427

    osnap427 Member

    Jun 7, 2009
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Pretty stupid post.

    Kiko was a quality keeper for Espanyol for years. He may have been second choice here due to Keylor being in great form, but when Keylor has made numerous mistakes that have either cost or nearly cost us points Kiko, who has always been steady and reliable in his appearances for us, deserves a shot for at least a few games.
     
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  10. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    Donna seems like a pipe dream although I prefer signing him to any other except Neuer who is also untouchable.

    I'm afraid Floro will pay mega bucks gif De Gea or Courtois. Probably the Spaniard. Unless we sign Monchi in the summer who will bring us some obscure name GK from Paraguay or some such for $3M and he'll turn out awesome.

    It wouldn't be sensible to pay upwards of 50M for a GK.
     
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  11. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Courtois for me is a far superior option to DDG. 2 years younger and has proven to be a top keeper at a far more consistent and sustained level.

    Ederson from Benfica looks to be like a real good one, although to be fair, I've seen him in a few games in the CL only. @MerlinRM mentioned him before me, and has probably seen him much more than myself. Portuguese clubs obviously charge a premium on their players, but they might be more willing to sell than Chelsea or United.
     
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  12. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    GK is different then outfield players. You don't juggle them around man.

    If he goes with Kiko, Navas is done mentally. If Kiko doesn't perform we truly are screwed. With this he has given Navas every benefit of doubt, after all this is the first season of this sort of performance happening. It is understandable that he expects Navas to shake things off and return to what he was before. The end result at the end of the year is already decided though; Navas is gone.

    That is not the same situation as Benzema
     
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  13. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Definitely agree about Courtois, although I wish we could get the pipe dream Italian.

    I do not want De Gea. He made his choice. Let him live with it.
     
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  14. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
    NorthEast USA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ederson has quietly been having a great year. Benched an inform Julio Cesar a year and half/2years ago and never looked back. I'd say the best Brazilian keeper atm. But Benfica are about their money and from what I've read, are ready to sell if the right offer comes. Man City are reportedly interested.

    Would be a smart signing for the club instead of going through another DDG drama or deal with Courtios. But I feel like his name isn't big enough for the club to make a move.
     
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  15. Kroosinator

    Kroosinator Member+

    Dec 12, 2014
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    Determined to win ? More like Ramos saving our ass every time .
     
  16. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

    Real Madrid
    Mar 21, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    And what causes us to need to be saved? Exactly. Shit defense that makes a minimum of 2 critical blunders a game, and a Goalkeeper who is pretty much at a quarter of the level from last year.
     
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  17. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Betis lost a match a while ago and he came out in the post match interview throwing everybody under the bus. That works at Betis because the fans are trying to hold on to him, but he seems like trouble. Looks like another Pedro Leon in the making.
     
  18. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    Agree.

    I think @raven3k mentioned Ederson as well. Haven't seen him much to be honest. If only we could get the Italian young'un. That would be us set for the next decade probably, if not more.

    Just out of curiosity, how much would you guys be willing to pay for him at this point? What price would be palatable?
     
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  19. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    Disagree. Keeper or not if the player has the mental fortitude to overcome his bad form that's the difference between world class or mediocre players. Iker managed to do it when he got benched.
     
  20. russian hattie

    russian hattie Member+

    Feb 5, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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    England
    No decent coach in the world regularly rotates their goalkeeper. They need to be there consistently, and given more time if there are errors. This is the difference between them and outfield players.
     
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  21. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    I think if you're getting a young enough keeper (and Courtois at 24 falls into that as well), you're paying for a position for minimum 8 years. That has to be taken into account.
    After Pep escorts Hart out the door, forces the club to pay through the nose for Bravo, it would be hilarious for them to go after another keeper this summer. What a mess.
     
  22. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Sad to see such potential go to waste.
     
  23. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    What are you even talking about? Rotate? Navas has barely been rotated! We are past the halfway point of the season and his form has been rubbish from the start of it.
     
  24. meringues

    meringues Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
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    Real Madrid
    Did not realize that Courtois is only 24. But why on earth would Chelsea even think about selling him?
     
  25. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    The hope is that he'd force the transfer based on his love for the city of Madrid.
     

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