Real Madrid are CHAMPIONS!! Cope Del Rey Final POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

Horsehead · Apr 17, 2011

Post Match Discussion Thread for Discussion of Match.

Iker says FFS, please stop trolling each other.

WhiteBlood · Apr 17, 2011

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Boooo You close that other one just after I post my great "postmatch/dust has settled/trolling has been dealt" with post.

Horsehead · Apr 17, 2011

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WhiteBlood said: ↑

Boooo You close that other one just after I post my great "postmatch/dust has settled/trolling has been dealt" with post.
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I know, I saw that and I felt bad. Go ahead and paste it here.

I closed because it wasn't settling itself.

WhiteBlood · Apr 17, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

Fine, since you insist

My 2cents. Im sure that Benz09 will be waiting anxiously

Tbh, I didnt like the way we setup. But we made it work, Pepe was absolutely huge for us.

I didnt like DIMaria, too much running like a headless chicken and not enough using his brain. I liked what I saw from Ozil when he came on. Benzema needs us to have more possession of the ball for him to be effective, and in these games with Barca thats not going to happen so Adebayor ( good game from him aswell ) replaces him for the Copa.

We need to be better with the ball when we get it, thats easier said than done. We had things on lock tbh ( apart from the Villa penalty shout & Messi attempted chip ) and had the more dangerous chances till then. Ball cleared off the line was heartbreaking. Albiol, I hated on him when it happened but he shouldve done better.

I'd like to see Ronaldo down the left more tbh. Adriano was well instructed ( or purely by instinct because he was on a yellow early on to stay back a bit more ) so if we manage to do that with Alves we really mess up a major part of their game.

Good god are they good at keeping the ball. On another note, we put out one hell of a MANlike performance once we went down. There was a moment where they were trying to clear the ball on the edge of their box and we were just running straight at them full speed pressing them into making mistakes, screeching into tackles.

God bless this team, and wow my heart stopped when Khedira took that shot on the edge of the box. I thought for sure that will ripple the net because he's due on tbh. Shame.

Ronaldo-Adebayor-Ozil
Pepetheman-Alonso-Khedira
Marcelo-Ramos-Carvalho-Arbs
GodblesstheSaint

Backline picks itself. I like the more "wise" option of Ozil in there. And Adebayor did very well in his time on the pitch, definitely a better option if we are to play this sort of game. Aerial threat, pace and power to get in behind the backline.

Any injury worries for both teams for the Copa final? Puyol? Pique? I'd fancy our chances a whole lot more if Busquets is forced to play as a CB leaving Mascherano or Keita in his place in the middle of the pitch ( not the Cules trio = less possession, less possession for them, more for us ).

Let's rock & roll folks, hopefully the boys will only increase in confidence as we play them more.

mymy33 · Apr 17, 2011

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I'm glad to see you recovered your wits from that dramatic, over-the-top meltdown you had after Barca scored yesterday to be able to post. Perhaps some posters could stand a measure of the fight and belief they demand of our players?

WhiteBlood · Apr 17, 2011

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mymy33 said: ↑

I'm glad to see you recovered your wits from that dramatic, over-the-top meltdown you had after Barca scored yesterday to be able to post. Perhaps some posters could stand a measure of the fight and belief they demand of our players?
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Im glad you're glad.

YOUNGSTARS87 · Apr 17, 2011

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Horsehead said: ↑

Iker says FFS, please stop trolling each other.
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In before positive match backlash part two.

-Reivax- · Apr 17, 2011

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WhiteBlood said: ↑

Fine, since you insist

My 2cents. Im sure that Benz09 will be waiting anxiously

Tbh, I didnt like the way we setup. But we made it work, Pepe was absolutely huge for us.

I didnt like DIMaria, too much running like a headless chicken and not enough using his brain. I liked what I saw from Ozil when he came on. Benzema needs us to have more possession of the ball for him to be effective, and in these games with Barca thats not going to happen so Adebayor ( good game from him aswell ) replaces him for the Copa.

We need to be better with the ball when we get it, thats easier said than done. We had things on lock tbh ( apart from the Villa penalty shout & Messi attempted chip ) and had the more dangerous chances till then. Ball cleared off the line was heartbreaking. Albiol, I hated on him when it happened but he shouldve done better.

I'd like to see Ronaldo down the left more tbh. Adriano was well instructed ( or purely by instinct because he was on a yellow early on to stay back a bit more ) so if we manage to do that with Alves we really mess up a major part of their game.

Good god are they good at keeping the ball. On another note, we put out one hell of a MANlike performance once we went down. There was a moment where they were trying to clear the ball on the edge of their box and we were just running straight at them full speed pressing them into making mistakes, screeching into tackles.

God bless this team, and wow my heart stopped when Khedira took that shot on the edge of the box. I thought for sure that will ripple the net because he's due on tbh. Shame.

Ronaldo-Adebayor-Ozil
Pepetheman-Alonso-Khedira
Marcelo-Ramos-Carvalho-Arbs
GodblesstheSaint

Backline picks itself. I like the more "wise" option of Ozil in there. And Adebayor did very well in his time on the pitch, definitely a better option if we are to play this sort of game. Aerial threat, pace and power to get in behind the backline.

Any injury worries for both teams for the Copa final? Puyol? Pique? I'd fancy our chances a whole lot more if Busquets is forced to play as a CB leaving Mascherano or Keita in his place in the middle of the pitch ( not the Cules trio = less possession, less possession for them, more for us ).

Let's rock & roll folks, hopefully the boys will only increase in confidence as we play them more.

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Good post. And indeed, any news on Puyol/Pique?

LosMerengues89 · Apr 17, 2011

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Suscribed

C.Ronaldo9 · Apr 17, 2011

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My gosh does Mou have Barcas number or what? Tactical genius Mourinho. Figured out a way to stop Iniesta, Messi

I think in the final we'll see a more defensive team with Ozil starting or Adebayor in place of Benzema. Pity we won't see Pipita but oh well.

celito · Apr 17, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

Thought you guys may be interested in this. Good analysis of the game and tactics employed by Mourinho. I am not sure the Dunga comparison is 100% on, but still interesting.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/908618/alvarez:-real-madrid's-top-tips?cc=5901

As stated in the article I am not sure you will be able to hold on to the ball with that initial lineup. But it may be your best chance of winning. I thought Mourinho did a superb coaching job. I am very impressed with how he played Pepe.

blanc · Apr 18, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

After losing 5 games in a row, that draw felt like a win
After farca winning 5 games in a row, that draw felt like a loss

Bring on CdR and CL.

FeelIt · Apr 18, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

celito said: ↑

Thought you guys may be interested in this. Good analysis of the game and tactics employed by Mourinho. I am not sure the Dunga comparison is 100% on, but still interesting.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/908618/alvarez:-real-madrid's-top-tips?cc=5901

As stated in the article I am not sure you will be able to hold on to the ball with that initial lineup. But it may be your best chance of winning. I thought Mourinho did a superb coaching job. I am very impressed with how he played Pepe.
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Thanks.

Here is Phil Ball's perspective: he offers Mourinho some praise.

toslat · Apr 18, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

Despite Di maria's errors on Saturday he is probably the better option to start ahead of Ozil. His pace, work rate and tracking back basically took alves out of the game, making farca more predictable upfront. Just dont see Ozil doing same and think he, along with Benz, will be more effective later in the game against a tired farca.

FeelIt · Apr 18, 2011

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Sid Lowe's perspective.

It was as if everyone was trying to convince themselves that they were happy, to externalise their optimism. But the image, celebration laced with irritation, said much. About uncertainty, about doubts, about priorities, about the awkwardness of the situation and, in part, about relations within Real Madrid's dressing room.
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It's annoying how he always tries to pass off his opinion as fact.

Benz09 · Apr 18, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

WhiteBlood said: ↑

Fine, since you insist

My 2cents. Im sure that Benz09 will be waiting anxiously

Tbh, I didnt like the way we setup. But we made it work, Pepe was absolutely huge for us.

I didnt like DIMaria, too much running like a headless chicken and not enough using his brain. I liked what I saw from Ozil when he came on. Benzema needs us to have more possession of the ball for him to be effective, and in these games with Barca thats not going to happen so Adebayor ( good game from him aswell ) replaces him for the Copa.

We need to be better with the ball when we get it, thats easier said than done. We had things on lock tbh ( apart from the Villa penalty shout & Messi attempted chip ) and had the more dangerous chances till then. Ball cleared off the line was heartbreaking. Albiol, I hated on him when it happened but he shouldve done better.

I'd like to see Ronaldo down the left more tbh. Adriano was well instructed ( or purely by instinct because he was on a yellow early on to stay back a bit more ) so if we manage to do that with Alves we really mess up a major part of their game.

Good god are they good at keeping the ball. On another note, we put out one hell of a MANlike performance once we went down. There was a moment where they were trying to clear the ball on the edge of their box and we were just running straight at them full speed pressing them into making mistakes, screeching into tackles.

God bless this team, and wow my heart stopped when Khedira took that shot on the edge of the box. I thought for sure that will ripple the net because he's due on tbh. Shame.

Ronaldo-Adebayor-Ozil
Pepetheman-Alonso-Khedira
Marcelo-Ramos-Carvalho-Arbs
GodblesstheSaint

Backline picks itself. I like the more "wise" option of Ozil in there. And Adebayor did very well in his time on the pitch, definitely a better option if we are to play this sort of game. Aerial threat, pace and power to get in behind the backline.

Any injury worries for both teams for the Copa final? Puyol? Pique? I'd fancy our chances a whole lot more if Busquets is forced to play as a CB leaving Mascherano or Keita in his place in the middle of the pitch ( not the Cules trio = less possession, less possession for them, more for us ).

Let's rock & roll folks, hopefully the boys will only increase in confidence as we play them more.
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With his reputation for thunderbolts my heart stopped too

Anyway your comments were spot on, and i think the only reason Ronaldo started on the right is because we all know he wouldn't be able to neutralise the attacking threat that Alves would've posed. Nevertheless i think he switched flanks at the right time in the second half and managed to interlink with Marcelo will enough to really start going at them, which is what brought the penalty.

I'd stick with Di Maria for the next game as well, but who knows Mourinho might change tactics to keep Pep guessing.

Doni · Apr 18, 2011

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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2011/04/18/2446637/barcelonas-dani-alves-marcelo-told-me-he-dived-for-real

Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut, if this is true.

plyka · Apr 18, 2011

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Doni said: ↑

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277...-dani-alves-marcelo-told-me-he-dived-for-real

Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut, if this is true.
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Are you fing serious right now? Alves says that Marcelo said he dived for real, lol. That's the funniest shit i've heard in a while.

ratheesh7k · Apr 18, 2011

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Doni said: ↑

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/2011/04/18/2446637/barcelonas-dani-alves-marcelo-told-me-he-dived-for-real

Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut, if this is true.
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I wish it was true...

but I dont believe this d!ck head alvez whom I really wanna see someday experience cruching tackle on his ankle... just to see how he react when he really get injured..

techfall · Apr 18, 2011

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Guys I just got off the phone with David Villa.. He told me he dived too

scotholiday11 · Apr 18, 2011

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why the hell would danny diving alves sell out a fellow countryman like that?

Cyrudan · Apr 18, 2011

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scotholiday11 said: ↑

why the hell would danny diving alves sell out a fellow countryman like that?
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Because he's a douche and always has been?

scotholiday11 · Apr 18, 2011

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Cyrudan said: ↑

Because he's a douche and always has been?
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I know but even for him thats kinda low..they were probably joking around and he runs to the papers first chance

mymy33 · Apr 18, 2011

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This situation is similar to that Barcelona-Espanyol game when Xavi dived in the box rather shamelessly and Ibra converted the PK and Barca won 1-0. Remember after the game Xavi said Baena came up to him and told him it was a PK? And when Baena heard this stopped short of telling Xavi to go to Hell but he did say he was lying. I tell ya' these Cules

Saint Iker · Apr 18, 2011

Re: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona | Spring 2011 Clasico #1 of 4 | POSTMATCH DISCUSSION

Doni said: ↑

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277...-dani-alves-marcelo-told-me-he-dived-for-real

Maybe he should have kept his mouth shut, if this is true.
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Whether Marcelo dived or not, I highly doubt he would be foolish enough to actually admit that to Alves. I call BS until further proof.