PBP: Rapids vs LA Gals - Fraser Era #3 - 7pm on 9/11/2019

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by TheWarmBurger, Sep 10, 2019 at 12:13 PM.

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Predictions on the final score tonight:

Poll closed Thursday at 12:16 PM.
  1. Rapids dominate the scoreline and win by 2 or more goals

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Rapids win by 1

    9 vote(s)
    64.3%
  3. Everybody is happy - then again, maybe not - Tie game

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  4. Rapids lose by 1

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. No rest for the weary - Rapids lose by 2 or more goals

    2 vote(s)
    14.3%
  1. Andy126

    Andy126 Member

    Mar 31, 2017
    We look good. LA has had some chances, but so have we. Not sure the possession or shot statistics because I’m in the stadium.

    It’s been, at worst, even. At best, advantage Rapids. Should be an entertaining 2nd half.

    Shinyashiki continues to show up. Price has had some really nice free kick/corner kicks that haven’t found some on the other end. Zlatan relatively quiet and contained. Irwin with several nice saves.

    Anyone’s match at this point
     
  2. Andy126

    Andy126 Member

    Mar 31, 2017
    I have zero issues with Irwin as the starting GK going forward. He’s been solid tonight.
     
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  3. GreatGonzo

    GreatGonzo Member+

    Jul 1, 1999
    NH
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    4 minutes added time.

    Game ends at 102:30.

    Can’t say I’ve seen that before.

    Happy with the three points and happy to make it harder for the Galaxy to make the playoffs!
     
  4. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
  5. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldn't watch the game: Comcast has nixed Altitude, and MLS Direct is blacked out. No way I am heading the across town to the Dick at Rush hour on a week day.
     
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  6. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once again, watching the game was nixed by the billionaires having tantrums. Based on the scoreline:

    Bodmer Line: 7/4 = 1.750 PPG (points needed to snag last playoff spot at 43 point average divided by games remaining). That said, FC Dallas is the current last playoff team, and is already at 43 points, with a projected final of 50 points. Colorado’s mathematical maximum is 48 points, so running the table plus help is needed.

    Kroenke Line: no longer in play. (Maximum points that can be earned to win the average Wooden Spoon at just over 26 points).

    Hudson Line: no longer in play. (PPG needed to become the worst team in MLS history.) The record is 16 points, still held by D.C. United (3-24-7 in 2013). All teams are over 16 points now.

    Rapids: 10-14-6, with 36 points in 30 matches = 1.200 PPG, on pace for 40.8 points for the season, after completing the worst first third of a season (2 points) in MLS history.

    Rapids: surrendering 1.833 goals per match (55 goals in 30 matches) on pace to surrender 62.3 goals for the season. The current MLS record is 74 goals allowed (Orlando City, 2018). The Rapids would have to surrender a highly unlikely 5.000 goals per match the rest of the season (20 goals in 4 games) to be the worst defensive team in MLS history, and that assumes FC Cincinnati (72 goals allowed and counting) doesn’t break the record.

    Coaching comparison:
    Hudson: 0-7-2, 2 points, 0.181 PPG in 9 matches. 12 GF (1.333 avg), 24 GA (2.667 avg), Diff = -12
    Casey: 7-7-4, 25 points, 1.389 PPG in 18 matches. 31 GF (1.722 avg), 30 GA (1.667 avg), Diff = +1
    Fraser: 3-0-0, 6 points, 3.000 PPG in 3 matches. 6 GF (2.000 avg), 1 GA (0.333 avg), Diff = +5

    Never forget: Hudson’s all-time Rapids MLS regular season record: 43 matches as head coach, 8-26-9 record, 0.767 PPG; 48 GF (1.116 avg), 87 GA (2.023 avg), -39 differential.

    Hudson was on pace to earn 6 points for the full season. Fraser has 9 points in 3 matches. Tell me again why the RFO waited so long to jettison Hudson???
     
  7. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    I'm hoping to watch the replay on SportsNet or whatever 691 is on Directv, the live matches are always blacked out even though I'm paying for the sportspack (I assume to encourage directkick 'plus sales') but lots of the replays are not. I know the final score but posts here were sparse enough it won't really be 'spoiled'. Full disclosure during our darkest hours I watched a fair number of matches (or speed watched) later on replay even when I could get them on Altitude live.
     
  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. Andy126

    Andy126 Member

    Mar 31, 2017
    #34 Andy126, Sep 12, 2019 at 12:54 AM
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2019 at 1:01 AM
    Takeaways:

    Solid and deserved win. Better team won tonight.

    A lot of dangerous possession with purpose. A lot of dangerous shots on goal.

    Bassett and Mezquida had the goals, but for my money Shinyashiki was MOTM (and was named so in the stadium). Love watching him play. He literally took on 4-5 LAG defenders head-to-head in the box and ended up drawing the game winning PK. He’s got craft. He’s got stones. Just love his game.

    Irwin was a close second MOTM for me, even though Basset and Mezquida both had good games. Cole’s goal was very nice. Have absolutely no issue with Irwin manning the pipes for the next few years as a Howard replacement. He had several really nice saves.

    Price dropped in one dangerous free kick after another perfectly in front of goal all night. He continues to be solid in that regard.

    Thought starting Abubakar at RB and Keegan at LB was a clever way of ensuring all of our best defenders were on the field. I’m a CC fan and hate to see him leave the organization but the Fraser hire is proving stronger and stronger with each passing win. He is 3-0 with a +5 GD against the NYRB (on the road), Seattle and the LAG. It’s SUCH a stark contrast from the Hudson era to see what an intelligent and skilled hand is capable of achieving with this “bottom group of players” and a continued indictment of just how bad of a coach he really was. It’s astonishing on every level. I think you see it most in the play of Danny Wilson and Tommy Smith, both of whom were fairly solid all night tonight. However, under Hudson, placed in the wrong formation, constantly exposed and out of position they regularly looked like amateurs. Under Fraser, played in a sensible formation and not asked to do the absurd, they look like completely different players.

    Which brings me to my final overarching point: KSE picked a REALLY poor time to allow their TV coverage to collapse. This is a team that has been searching to establish a larger toe hold in a Denver market that’s been utterly uninterested for YEARS. Now, finally, we have a young/exciting team with a thoughtful new coach that has been rattling off exciting win after exciting win against some really solid competition...and no one is there to see it. Talk about a buzzkill! For a team desperate to build home town momentum and good will, this is the precisely wrong time to allow the TV coverage to go away. If a tree falls in the forest amp there’s no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?


    It’s amazing how quickly you can stop following a team once you can no longer watch them on TV.

    And it’s a damn shame for this team because it appears that they may be (finally) beginning to put it all together.
     
  10. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    Wow, looked at the highlights on the website, Shinyashiki's penalty look incredibly soft. I didn't see his heels get clipped, there was a little contact but it seemed routine for what is done in the box. It looked like he just fell forward.

    Then on the VAR review of the possible penalty in injury time, that looked like it could have been a pen for a high boot. As I recall from the game Fotis took a long time on the review....I assume he let it go for being a low lunge for a header?

    I thought for sure they were going to award it and Zlatan would get his moment.

    That's the first 10+ minute injury time (I timed 12:30) I remember seeing where there wasn't a bad injury (like one where there's concern about stabilizing the neck on a hard board before stretchering off the player).

    Exciting game though. The Rapids definitely had some lucky moments but also kept doing their thing. Fraser 9 points in 3 games. Definitely have to keep firing coaches, they get better each time.
     
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  11. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
     
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  12. unkiemark

    unkiemark Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Boulder
  13. pdid10

    pdid10 Member

    Aug 8, 2008
    Boulder
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Irwin looked good. Defense still shaky.
    Weird to see abubakar bombing down the wing. Rapids dominated shots and corners they deserved the result but tie would have been fair considering the soft pk and non call on the other side. I thought for sure Zlatan would punish the defense but they kept him at bay.
     
  14. fischerw

    fischerw Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    Joplin, MO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What that clip appears to show is Andre taking advantage of the stoppage imposed by the field rushers to get Zlatan's attention and engage in some smack talk.

    I love it.
     
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  15. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope, that was a failure to get any attention while signaling the universal "lets exchange shirts" to someone still living in their own delusion.
     
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  16. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    Stafford, VA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Had an early start on the East Coast so I only watched the first half. I'll watch the replay tonight. I remain fascinated by the impact three coaches had on the same group of players. Obviously some players like Andre grew and got experience but this run of form is exceptional.
     
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  17. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    So why was there 10 minutes of added time? Was it VAR? I'm not going to say VAR is ruining the game, it's not. But it is doing one thing I feared - it's making games longer. It's Westernizing, dare I say Americanizing, the game in a way I don't like.
     
  18. Bridgeman

    Bridgeman Member

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Feb 25, 2006
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shinyashiki is a player.
     
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  19. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    4 minutes of announced injury time, then a lot of commotion Then there were two VAR events. One followed an initial red for a foul on Shinyashiki in the corner, the commotion from the red wasted a lot of time (let's just say, that was a great time for Rubio NOT to be in the game), then there was the VAR (done by the remote crew). Then the VAR for the possible high boot followed the guy getting kicked in the head, and Fotis took a long time mulling it over himself.

    It didn't really delay the game but lots of players were jawing with Ibrahimovic. He seemed to be talking a lot of crap, maybe trying to bait Rapids players, and they were taking it.
     
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  20. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    He was a dervish in this game. A lot of deft work in tight spaces.

    I am not seeing much wailing and gnashing of teeth over his PK call, so I'll have to watch video again. Fotis was in position, and there was no VAR, so he must have seen something.
     
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  21. Sports Yak

    Sports Yak Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Lakewood
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Just watched the highlights. Incredibly soft PK call on Shin. Great skill by him to make the ref make a call. But I wouldn't have called it.

    I agree with Albert on VAR. I'm actually a VAR fan, but there are times when a foul is just a foul. If it's not a goal-scoring situation or dangerous play, let the refs on the field call it and keep the game moving. Understandably a fine line.
     
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  22. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I love to read the comments from our opposing team's fans on various articles. Man, the gal fans sure are whiners. Almost seattle level of whining.

    Talk about entitled. Although to be fair, someday I hope we have done so much good to feel entitled rather than always on the wrong end.
     
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  23. Soaker888

    Soaker888 Member+

    Feb 21, 2012
    Denver
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I haven’t read what you have, but bitterness about Shin’s pk call coupled with no decision on the boot to head can create some sour grapes from a lot of fan bases. But the reality is any moderately successful team has expectations of a W against the ‘Pids (as you elude to). Hence those entitled fans showing displeasure. During the Seattle game I sat behind a SEA fan who complained most of the time about everything except for his own team. I was howling pretty loudly on our goals to be sure he felt it. He left early.
     
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  24. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Just watched the highlights. Our penalty was soft. I'm glad Pavon did not get a red card, he was trying for the ball and was not reckless. I'm still undecided about the penalty shout, but I think it was not a penalty. Possibly a high kick by our guy, which I believe is indirect, but you never see that given at the pro level. Anyway, it's amusing that Zlatan might miss out the play-offs two years in a row, yet has never lost to LAFCUnitedCity.
     
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  25. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    One of the gal coaches just walked by me at dia. Gave him a smirk. Didnt seem happy....
     
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