[R] USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game / In-Game

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  1. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wednesday August 3rd
    7:30pm
    Jesse Owens Memorial Stadium

    Should be a pretty good test for the new look Crew. The USOC could also be out best chance, given the circumstances, for some hardware this year.

    FCD is a tough opponent this year. Will Johnson and Ruiz be available for this match? Ruiz always manages to kill us. Even if they aren't available, Mina, Alverez, and Abe Tompson are very good options off the bench. ROB looked damn good in the ASG and the Crew need to get someone over there that can handle his speed and skill. Although in that heat, I'd imagine ROB and Valikari might be a little tired on Wednesday.

    I expect:

    -----------Walker----------
    Marshall----Wingert----Fraser
    -----------Elliott-----------
    Hejduk----Vasquez-----Henderson
    ----Martino---------Glen-----
    -----------Cameron-----------

    I wouldn't mind seeing Buddle or Sutton for Glen. I just don't think he does that much for the Crew. Makes good runs and all, but doesn't do anything with the ball once he has it. It would be good to see if Buddle is ready to go and if he is motivated. I think he could benefit from not having to be the target/linking player and just having to get open and get to goal.

    I also wouldn't mind getting Szetela out there, maybe in Hejduk's place.
     
  2. Grouchy

    Grouchy Member+

    Evil
    Apr 18, 1999
    Canal Winchester
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    -----------Walker----------
    Hejduk-Marshall-Wingert-Fraser
    -----------Elliott-----------
    Martino---Vasquez-----Henderson
    ------Cameron--Glen---------

    If we are going to use Hejduk I might be tempted to keep him in the back to shore up the defense and keep Martino out wide where he seems to be having some (a lot of) success. I'd keep Buddle on the bench as long as he's still not 100%. Glen gets a few more chances to keep his job. He needs to get integrated into the offense before we reintegrate Buddle or try someone else (Sutton).
     
  3. PVancouver

    PVancouver Member

    Apr 1, 1999
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    From Buzz Carrick last week...

    "I met with Eddie last night and he is not ready." said Clarke. "The doctor says he is improving and there is greater range of motion, but Eddie is still stiff and sore so he won't play. He trained once earlier this week and is doing work in the pool. We expect him to return to training at the end of next week with a possible return, if all goes well, for the US Open Cup game at Columbus."

    Johnson trained one day last week but didn't respond well, although there was no setback in the injury. Johnson has been out since May with a stress fracture to his toe.

    Although EJ has been out for some time, Clarke says fitness is not a trouble spot. "I am not worried about fitness. Eddie has been on the bike and doing cardio work. Plus Eddie is a strong, young, naturally fit athlete. Perhaps some game shape will be off, but he will be back to full speed very quickly.
     
  4. crewzer1308

    crewzer1308 New Member

    May 11, 2004
    Ohio
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    during halftime Rob Stone talked to Johnson at the all-star game and they said he should be back in about two weeks or so.
     
  5. Raoul

    Raoul New Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    Downtown Dublin
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Do we go for the Open Cup, or save guys for an MLS playoff run?

    Are we deep enough to do both?
     
  6. The Greatest

    The Greatest New Member

    Jan 19, 2005
    Ohio
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Ruiz is MIA, so who knows about him.

    I think we need to do everything we can to advance in the US Open Cup. First 11 should go from the start.

    I'm not sure where Hejduk fits into this new formation. He may have to really work to get back into the team. Or if for some reason Waczycha goes to 4 in the back, Hejduk may start, but otherwise, I think you leave him on the bench.
     
  7. futballpunk

    futballpunk New Member

    Aug 22, 2003
    Temperance, MI
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    My thinking would be to put Wingert in Testo's spot instead of Hejduk (Wingert is a lefty and a much better crosser, IMO). Frankie at right back, Chad at left back, and put Robin back in the middle. On the other hand, the Marshall-Wingert-Fraser backline has done pretty well, and it might be a bad idea to mess with something that's been working.
     
  8. Liviu

    Liviu New Member

    Jul 12, 2005
    Illinois, USA
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    What are the Crew Fans' opinions on Storey?

    I saw him only when he played againsts the Metros and had that beautiful assist, but I liked him alot even though his technical skills and decision making needs to improve. I also noticed that he scored in your game against Fulham.

    I would think that you guys would use him as a sub in the last 25 minutes or so of the game to take advantage of his speed, no?
     
  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    I think Bobby Rifle will pull out the stops and go for the win. Not necessarily because it might be the only trophy within our reach but also because he's trying to instill a winning attitude over there. Right now, if we're scheduled for an exnibition against the JV team over at Our Lady of the Potted Plant, those girls had better strap it up because Robert will want to see some people carried off.

    And yes, he'd love the hardware for any number of reasons.

    Storey still has a ways to go. A lot of us saw his ugly display against Ohio State last year in Columbus where Marcus was either standing around pouting or coughing up the ball, culminated by a straight red card for assaulting an OSU player in the back. It was not an impressive performance to say the least.

    It cofirmed what everyone had been saying about him since he was a U16: million dollar legs, ten cent head.

    In a very limited role this year he's definitely had his moments, but he's ALWAYS had his moments. Fortunately for him, Kielbasa Bob is exactly the sort of coach he needs right now: a "my way or the highway" guy who demands that you play and act like a professional.
     
  10. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Not a bad idea, but for the love of Bob, can we please find a position for Wingert and stick him there. This jumping around all over the field sure isn't going to help his development...
     
  11. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    I couldn't agree more, although we shouldn't complain, considering that "the last coach" had Wingert nailed to the bench in favor of guys like Kelley and Schulte.
     
  12. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    I've heard both 7 and 7:30 for a start time for this. Anyone have official confirmation? Also, where can we park? The "American Idols Live" show is at the Schott that night (dear merciful jesus) and I'd rather not get stuck in traffic and have to pay $15 to park somewhere. Ideas?

    Z
     
  13. fidlerre

    fidlerre Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Central Ohio
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Game starts at 7:30pm.

    Supposedly parking is free right next to Jesse Owens.
     
  14. crewcrazy17

    crewcrazy17 Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Medina
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Will Ruiz' "personal" issues be resolved in time for the Open Cup? If not who does Dallas run out up top? Mina and Thompson? I don't see any other forwards on their roster.
     
  15. Fougs

    Fougs Member

    May 26, 2004
    Ft. Worth, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Arturo Alvarez has played the left forward in FCD's 4-3-3 lately.
     
  16. ryankozlowski

    ryankozlowski Red Card

    Apr 30, 2005
    Conneaut Lake, PA
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    why isnt the game at crew stadium.. just wondering how do you get to jesse owens?
     
  17. MFRONE

    MFRONE Member+

    Jul 24, 2000
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    I thought parking is free for all concerts at the Schott.
     
  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    State Fair takes up the CCS parking lot, making any soccer/sports event at Crew Stadium virtually impossible to get to.

    Here's a map, along with address, and a link for directions:
    http://www.osu.edu/map/linkbuildings/owensstadium.html
     
  19. CrewBeat

    CrewBeat Be Massive My Friends

    Jul 27, 2004
    Manhattan
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Atleast all the money is going to a good cause. Can't complain about that.
     
  20. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    JOM is a nice place to catch a game as well. It's not as intimate as CCS because of the track around the field, but the main stands are rather high so you get a good view of all the field.

    I've always thought it was the ideal place for USOC games and Reserve games.
     
  21. 9 Rush

    9 Rush Member

    Sep 9, 2004
    C'bus
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Take the akerman exit on 315. To be honest, if you miss that ramp there's about three more you could take and still get there easily enough. You can actually see the main stand from the freeway, it's about 400 yds to the east.
     
  22. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    It should be interesting to see if Glen has any leftover emotions about not getting a chance to play for FCD. I would imagine so.

    So I'm a big confused - are the Crew still playing a 3-5-2? Some of the proposed lineups here seem to look more like a 4-4-2....

    I ask because it will be interesting to see how a 3-5-2 matches up with a 4-3-3.

    The way Dallas has played the 4-3-3, you have three interior midfielders and two wide forwards - usually with two of the interior middies tucked in between the central forward and the outside forwards.

    F-F-F
    -M-M-
    --M--

    Although sometimes they have gone with two d-mids, inverting the midfield triangle.

    Either way, though, for the formation to work, the wing-forwards have to stay high and outside against the outside wingbacks of the other team - and the central middies and the defensive backs have to cover the outside middie of the opponents.

    It took a few games for EJ and ROB to understand that - once they were doing it, the team was kicking butt. Then the injuries came, and Mina and Alvarez have struggled with that discipline.

    We've lost three in a row and you guys are on a bit of a run. This game worries me a lot.
     
  23. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Under Bob (may peace be upon him), we've moved to a 3-4-3 of late. Against Chicago it looked more like a 3-6-1, but against Fulham it was a full-bore 3-4-3.
     
  24. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    I, too, would like to see Wingert get more playing time, BUT that was one godawful own goal he scored in last Wednesday's exhibition vs. Fulham. I'm not convinced he's best used in the center of a 3 man backline. To me, that's Fraser's spot.
     
  25. Kevin Lindstrom

    Oct 28, 2003
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: USOC: Crew v FCD :: Pre-Game

    Very interesting. So still three at the back. How did that 3-6-1 look? I assume one central forward and two high mids out wide like in a 4-5-1 - how was the rest of the midfield arranged?

    Again, when the wing-forwards for Dallas play back too much, it plays like a 4-5-1 and it doesn't work out too well.
     

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