Alert: [R] Arsenal vs AC Milan Tue 3-5-12 @ 2:30 pm

it appears no one rates Park at the club.

 

oh! i saw the aftermath of that play! didn't see the play itself because my stream decided that that specific part of the game was entirely unnecessary.

hate that crap even more. at least man up. :-/

 

I remember when Aneilka should have played more time.

Wish he could have stayed with us a little longer.

Oh well...

Onward.

 

I feel like we're really overanalyzing one non-pass to Park.

 

It's a little bit harsh, I agree. Plus, Song clearly wasn't fit - it was obvious the whole game. Hope the six days off and the lighter fixture list moving forward helps him gear up for the stretch run.

 

Or Wenger just made a panic buy as a relatively cheap insurance for RVP. While he may trust his scouts enough to swoop in on a player who was about to be snatched up by the Ligue 1 champions, it's more likely that deep inside, Wenger doesn't rate Asian footballers enough to actually give them a chance, especially when under as much pressure as he has been in.

Park was never in Wenger's game plan. He only got subbed in because Theo was hurt. Last time Park was put in it was a similar situation. Less than 5 minutes to go in need of a goal against ManU. And that's after months of not seeing any playtime at all. Wenger's made it quite clear he has no confidence in Park yet throws him on in these dire situations when desperate. Just a bad situation for all. If Wenger's going to play PCY in these most desperate circumstances, then at least give him some more game time in more appropriate situations, like the Blackburn thrashing.

 

Care to explain how you came to this conclusion? Sure, Inamoto was a flop, but Wenger has gone on the record in his admiration for Honda, Kagawa, and signed some high school kid from Japan.

Oh. And he coached in Japan for two seasons. Or maybe it's just that he doesn't rate Asians when they're not Japanese?

 

Because that is a much more reasonable explanation than he just isn't good enough.

 

He's talked up Korean players before as well: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/357638-arsene-wenger-convinced-by-korean-players-quality

Just because he's coached in Japan before doesn't necessarily mean he believes that Asian players are good enough to start for Arsenal's first team. In fact, that experience might have influenced him to equate Asian footballers with the obviously much inferior J-League level quality in his mind, thus the hesitation to actually give them any real chance. There may also be an element of catering to the board for marketing purposes which would make it easier for him to justify making an impulse insurance buy only to let him rot on the bench or snap up well-scouted young talent to loan off.

And if Wenger though Park "just isn't good enough" then what's the purpose of throwing him into high-pressure situations of big important matches or even select him for the bench in the first place?

 

You're not Korean by any chance, are you?

 

what a nonsensical post. The sad thing is A LOT of Korean fans on here believe this. Not all, but a lot.

I have no idea when you guys have become so entitled as football fans but its hilarious. Park isnt good enough for a below top level team like Arsenal. Deal with it.

 

You don't sound like someone who follows Arsenal.




...and anyone who follows Arsenal knows full well the quality of Park Ji-Sung. take your rant elsewhere.

EDIT:

To elaborate, there may be some hyperbole in the Arsenal forum but we all recognize that Park is a talented player (and has been in fantastic form for the Korean national team) who does not inspire confidence in Wenger. Or at least not enough to play him ahead of Chamakh - which says a lot.

If you followed Arsenal you'd know that we're not exactly blessed with many goal-scoring forwards and it's only been in dire circumstances that Park Chu-Young has taken foot on the pitch (ie: 8-2 loss at Old Trafford; desperate for goals and suffering an injury crisis in midfield).

Your argument for an anti-Asian bias implies a lot against Wenger's character and I don't believe for a second that his relationship with Park suggests a racist bias.

 

It does say a lot about Wenger.

Funny. If you followed Arsenal, you would know that he never played at all in that 8-2 loss.

 

Oh? Care to elaborate?

Yup, you got me on the 8-2 loss. I guess I'm lucky enough to have forgotten the particulars of that game. Although... still. I'm ashamed.

 

he has played just over 300 minutes for the 1st team, and hasn't impressed much, despite getting 1 goal. maybe he's just settling in but so far i haven't seen anything to disagree with wenger. if he wants to play more he's going to have to make his own mark to earn a place.

 

And on that note, i think we're done here. On to the next game.

 

Park is a proven goal scorer and a deadball specialist among other things with an incredibly high football IQ, and has been a captain for his national team and has scored in the World Cup. Letting him start in a second string lineup against the likes of Shrewsbury and giving him only 7 minutes of the Premier League so far is hardly what I would call being given a real chance to prove himself. He was hardly played for months and expecting him to suddenly perform in the dying seconds of a desperate situation in a crucial match is not a proper way to gauge a player's ability.

 

Proven goal scorer? Where? Lol


This thread needs to be closed before this fella overruns it with delusions about Park Chu Young. Lol at the thought of Wenger being racist towards Asians

 

so what you are saying is that we should play him, despite him not being very good for arsenal, until he may (or may not) get better? since when did arsenal fc become a charity? we already have plenty enough players taking free handouts for nothing in return.
it's not like he is a youngster. he's 26 ffs. if he is such a proven goalscorer and has a great football iq, how come he couldn't score more against reserve sides or in 71 mins against lowly shrewsbury and how come he looks lost when he plays? surely a player such as you describe would look obviously head and shoulders above some of the teams he has played against. this hasn't been the case. care to explain that to us?

 

No, what I'm saying is that he is good enough to start in Arsenal's first team and definitely ahead of Chamakh, and that he hasn't been given a proper chance at all. And judging a player's ability based on playing him in a second string lineup or in the reserve team is laughable. You need to see how he does when he starts in the first team against a decent footballing side.

 

Why the hell does Park deserve a chance over Chamakh?

This dude Park came into the match on Tuesday, won the ball then lost it on his very next touch. The club made a mistake in buying him. I do feel bad that Park has wasted a season of his career at the club but he isn't good enough for Arsenal. No fault of his own, he should have never been bought in the first place.

 

LOL You can't judge him based on being thrown in for the last 3 minutes of regular time left after never being played. No matter how you slice it, he hasn't been given a fair chance to show what he can do, period.

 

I am judging him on his 300 minutes of play for the club. Those 3 minutes captured his time here.

He is not good enough for Arsenal. Henry stepped in with less time, at 34 years old, not playing in Europe for 2 years, and literally off the beach, and did more during 300 minutes than Park had.

 

That's a very good point. Henry didn't have a problem coming in his off season, and looking like a player who belonged for us.