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Discussion in 'FIFA and Tournaments' started by Nico Limmat, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From a matter-of-fact standpoint, you're right: Conmebol made a formal request, and it has to be processed.

    But Infantino does have the choice to either go hands-off and let things fall where they may, or his current path of actively promoting this potential expansion.
     
  2. Persepolis#8

    Persepolis#8 Member

    Manchester United/Persepolis
    Dec 19, 2018
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
  4. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
  5. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also Kuwait is not exactly right next door, it's an hour or two flight. Does Kuwait even have a world cup level stadium? I think just one that could even count close to a WC level stadium. How many games would they actually take from Qatar? I think their visa policies are also a lot stricter than UAE / Bahrain / Qatar.... just keep it in Qatar....
     
  6. jesta

    jesta Member

    Feb 9, 2014
    infantino is so greedy that he ignores obvious facts and would do anything just to get those few millions, no matter how ridiculous those moves are.

    still on the other hand, world cup 2022 got destroyed the moment it was awarded, noone with common sense cares any more!
     
  7. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    You know the other options stink when we are left hoping that we just get a 32-team WC in Qatar.
     
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  8. andregunts

    andregunts New Member

    Real Madrid
    Jamaica
    Jun 13, 2018
    this is getting waaay too complicated, just leave it with Qatar for 2022. 32 teams end of story
     
  9. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Exactly! As far as I am concerned, they can expand it to 128 or decrease it to FIFA-ranking top 16 teams, I don't care.
     
  10. JLSA

    JLSA Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    On a vaguely more pleasant note - although it's hardly massively important given the teams involved ... but

    First qualifying draw is today. The draw for the first round will be held on 17 April 2019 at 11:00 (UTC+8) the AFC House in Kuala Lumpur.

    http://www.the-afc.com/competitions...ar-2022-asian-teams-set-to-discover-opponents

    Bhutan - seeded - LOL. Their win against Sri Lanka at this stage last time around was particularly cool - sadly they didn't draw us in the next stage. I would have been tempted to make the away trip to Thimphu in that case.

    J
     
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  11. rooboy91

    rooboy91 Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Perth, Australia
    Club:
    Perth Glory
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    They've got one of the better looking home stadiums in world football
     
  12. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha ha - I actually went to see the Qatar vs Bhutan WCQ match here in Doha a couple of years back. I wore my Bhutan shirt which I picked up traveling there. Bhutan is a really unique and beautiful country. It's mainly archery which they are good at. It showed as that match wound up being Qatar's largest every victory winning 15-0. They do have in my opinion some of the coolest jerseys in the game. However, couldn't get my hands on one, even in Bhutan itself

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    About the preliminary draw (in July or a later date): is there anything you can correct/add to this?

    FIFA changed the July ranking's publication date, 25th instead of the 18th, and now can take the full results of the African Nations Cup 2019 into account. CAF's first qualifying round and AFC's second qualifying round are scheduled to begin in September. Most likely they'll use the July ranking. Hopefully there'll be more info by June/council meeting in Paris, incl. about the expansion nonsense, but I guess they could hold this preliminary draw in the last weekend of July (or soon after).

    Also, the 2019 Copa América results will be included in the July ranking. FIFA could go ahead with Conmebol's preliminary draw. Can't tell if the format/league system will be scrapped in case of an expansion but it sounds like the qualification structure will remain the same (scheduled to start in March next year).

    Like last time FIFA could add the OFC Nations Cup draw but could as well hold it at a later date (OFC's first qualifying round scheduled to start in Sep.2020 and second qualifying round to take place in June 2021?).

    In Concacaf's preliminary draw the April 2019 ranking will be used for seeding the first four rounds (scheduled to start in Sep.2020). Will the format be overhauled, will there be a draw in July?

    Holding UEFA's preliminary draw in July isn't ideal. The 2020 ECQs have already started and for the July ranking there'll be teams that only played two ECQs, others will have played three or even four ECQs. Makes more sense to hold the draw after the 2020 EUROs or better yet later that year when the 2021 UNL Final 4 teams are known (for aptness and format reasons). Luckily it looks like FIFA's July 2019 ranking, published almost two years before the European qualis for Qatar even begin, won't be used: "Furthermore a FIFA-spokesman has confirmed that "the draw for European World Cup qualifying is done in 2020".
     
  14. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Deportivo Wanka, Semen Padang, Dinamo Bender, Fotballaget Fart
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When is the draw for the Conmebol qualifying groups?

    :p
     
  15. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Similarly as in the 2018 FIFA World Cup Preliminary Draw ... "The fixtures will be determined by a draw, which will be held as part of the 2022 FIFA World Cup Preliminary Draw"

    Even if they don't abandon the league system there's a preliminary draw :D

    In case of an expansion Conmebol get 6 direct spots + 1 PO spot (and an extra PO spot when hosting). A gruelling 18 matchdays to eliminate 3 teams is a bit much. Basically a relegation scrap from the start.
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    Still beats friendlies, but yeah... not ideal.
     
  17. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And praise be for that...beats Grondona's "Let's keep Uruguay-Argentina on the last matchday in case either of us needs help" preset schedule :cautious:
     

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