Project24 - Stage 1 - Arsenal v WHU

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by crazy150, Aug 23, 2018.

  1. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The defense is still (at best) suspect; so I suppose (read: I hope) that Arsenal's scouting dept. have already picked out potential replacements. Sokratis could be given the benefit of the doubt since this is his first season in the English game but Mustafi has turned out to be £35 million wasted. Despite the positive news re: Kos I can't expect him to be healthy and ready to go by the new year.

    Is it just me or does Emery's style benefit Lacazette more than it does Auba? Guendouzi and Toreira should be starting games after the break, I can't trust Xhaka in the big games anymore. Playing against the West Ham's of the world are more his level.

    I guess Arsenal will have to tread water until the new year because there's no way in hell I can see them even in touching distance of the CL spots with Sokratis and Mustafi as their CB pairing.
     
  2. kanonier

    kanonier Member+

    Nov 7, 2005
    Bloomington, Ind.
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I worry about Guendouzi because... who is the last player that got better at Arsenal?

    Hopefully the new regime helps with that problem.
     
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  3. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    I spoke to someone about this, but at the end of the day we have a new manager who is completely different in how he operates off field than Wenger.

    Will players we have get better? Maybe, maybe not. But you can't really compare anything happening now to anything under Wenger.
     
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  4. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but yeah.

    If Emery felt his style benefitted Laca more, he'd be starting. So yeah, it's just you.
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Arsenal's start is much the same as last season

     
  6. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This is good analysis (I think):

     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Great gif

    We touched on this conversation the other day re Guardiola and how he works on the shape of his team before they lose the ball

    Basically that is a dumb play by Bellerin as the team is not set up to press and most players are ahead of him
     
  8. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    More a heavy touch.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    True

    Its interesting how the central midfielder (is it Xhaka?) doesn't cover his zone properly after the ball goes wide
     
  10. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean like always, in almost every game, right? Xhaka needs to sit.
     
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  11. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, true.

    I suppose this is one of the very hardest things to do tactically... to keep an ideal shape for both your current offensive foray and also an impending defensive block after a turnover.

    "Dumb" by Bellerin? He shouldn't be running so fast, creating that gap behind him? Is that gap solely his responsibility, or should Xhaka have been higher up closer to him? Or maybe, as much as anything, the problem was just a bad touch by Hector that got away from him?
     
  12. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Xhaka can only defend with his eyes
     
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  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Agreed. Ozil missed several games under Wenger during the last couple of seasons because he was sick and I seriously doubt he had any bust ups with Wenger. The number of times Ozil has been out sick could point to an underlying medical issue, the most benign of which would be bad allergies, which coincidentally are quite common in the summer.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Interesting still none of the majors have managed to source this story

    I wonder if it got exaggerated as yelling on the training field would hardly be unusual. Also seems strange that a brazillian ESPN journo has it and no one else, yet he tweets it right before the game. But not in english.
     
  15. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    My guess is that a bunch of people heard a similar story, but they couldn't confirm it and this guy was less reluctant to tweet out a rumor.
     
  16. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Possible.

    Strange for such a big story to break on twitter and not in english. As you say, maybe he fancied some clicks.
     
  17. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I've seen this before. It is interesting that in what was considered an off season for Ozil, that this analysis groups him with De Bruyne and Silva.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Ted also logged very impressive chance creation data for Ozil last season on a bad team.

    In simple terms - he kept delivering.
     
  19. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know what's up with him, but If any Player, let alone your superstar, misses games because of seasonal allergies? SMH
     
  20. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    You clearly don't have bad allergies, they can make breathing difficult and can result in sinus infections and bad colds.
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I don't remember him missing the big games.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yep - mebe is right - bad first touch.

    The general point about spacing stands for a gegenpress however.

    Germany had this same issue at the WC

    All the players run into a single line ahead of Bellerin

    the spacing needs to be correct so that some of them are controlling space in event of a breakdown, and bellerin, who is isolated, has to be careful not to lose the ball.
     
  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually I have increasingly bad allergies. My usage of Claritin & Zyrtec have skyrocketed in recent years. Do I have it really bad, probably not.

    But when you see sportsmen like Pete Sampras win a US Open while throwing up with stomach flu, it makes you think that seasonal allergies must be on the minor end of performance impairment. Or how about Kerri Strug take her final vault pass with a broken ankle.

    In any case, I'm pretty sure we're debating the wrong topic. I think there was some sort of "disagreement" between player and club this week, and Emery saying he had a cold was just an excuse. There's a fair amount of evidence supporting that conclusion. Including that we all know that's a very common practice for covering up a problem with a star player, when nobody really wants it going public.

    As I said in the Ozil thread, I really hope Emery earns his salary in man-management skills with Mesut this week. And that Mesut acts with maximum maturity towards helping the club. Barring any new or significant health issue for the player, we'll probably have a good idea in September if optimism is warranted. Crossing fingers.
     
  24. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If your allergies make it hard to breath that's gonna be more difficult to deal with than throwing up or making one last play on a broken bone.
     
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  25. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could quite easily be a sinus infection as well, which is frequently miscalled allergies by folks. A sinus infection can completely ruin my day, much more than allergies.
     

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