maybe i am too critical, but when mccarthy got hurt really bad in everton vs west brom, why was the referee(attwell.. a fifa) slower to react than the players, as in why wasn't he signalling for the medical guys to come on immediately. it seems to take longer than i would have expected
Unless you see (or feel as in the case of Rondon) the break as it happens it doesn't look like much though. Not surprising that the players near are the ones who realises the seriousness first.
Carabao Cup Semi-finals Second Leg 23 January Bristol City - Manchester City Graham Scott, Richard West, Adrian Holmes, Stuart Attwell 24 January Arsenal - Chelsea Michael Oliver, Simon Bennett, Scott Ledger, Andre Marriner Would be fun if there are more 50-50 penalty/simulation cases in the first match. Oliver has already had Chelsea - Arsenal earlier in the season. He sent off David Luiz with a straight red despite Luiz already being on a yellow.
Attwell just got back on the FIFA list but he is not ready for the FIFA list. He wasn't ready last time he went on a few years ago, and they had to take him off. It is things like this and lots of others that lead me to believe that I don't think he is really up to EPL standard, but he is clearly someone's favorite. Awarding a goal when the ball did not go between the posts should be enough to indicate his faulty approach. Don't be surprised to see more poor judgments like this. PH
Matchday 25 Tuesday 30 January Swansea City v Arsenal Referee: Lee Mason Assistants: Harry Lennard, Stuart Burt Fourth official: Roger East West Ham v Crystal Palace Referee: Neil Swarbrick Assistants: Adrian Holmes, Marc Perry Fourth official: Andre Marriner 20:00 Huddersfield Town v Liverpool Referee: Kevin Friend Assistants: Simon Bennett, Mark Scholes Fourth official: Jonathan Moss Wednesday 31 January Chelsea v AFC Bournemouth Referee: Lee Probert Assistants: Andy Garratt, Matthew Wilkes Fourth official: Roger East Everton v Leicester City Referee: Chris Kavanagh Assistants: Richard West, Sian Massey-Ellis Fourth official: Mike Jones Newcastle v Burnley Referee: Simon Hooper Assistants: Gary Beswick, Lee Betts Fourth official: Neil Swarbrick Southampton v Brighton Referee: Mike Dean Assistants: Simon Long, Ian Hussin Fourth official: John Brooks 20:00 Man City v West Brom Referee: Bobby Madley Assistants: Adam Nunn, Mick McDonough Fourth official: Kevin Friend 20:00 Stoke City v Watford Referee: Jonathan Moss Assistants: Eddie Smart, Andy Halliday Fourth official: Lee Mason 20:00 Tottenham Hotspur v Man Utd Referee: Andre Marriner Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Beck Fourth official: Graham Scott Marriner again with the big one, Hooper to make his Premier League debut.
They're not Premier League games, but http://you-are-the-ref.com/match-official-appointments/#fa has referees for cup games. Michael Oliver is doing Arsenal vs. Chelsea in the Carabao Cup today. The FA Cup games between two Premier League clubs have: Liverpool vs. West Bromwich Albion: Craig Pawson Southampton vs. Watford: Robert Madley Chelsea vs. Newcastle United: Kevin Friend
Not quite. Hooper refereed Norwich vs. Crystal Palace in August 2015. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/33744606 Video here: Maybe someone didn't like the disallowed goal decision. PH
Sure. As was the non-penalty call. Maybe you've seen worse, though wrongly disallowed goals are up there insofar as consequential decisions go. So when a good goal is taken away without any intervention from an AR, that's pretty bad for a referee. Regardless, the key here is that Hooper wasn't "demoted." He was in a trial spot and, given the missed KMIs alone, clearly failed. So he didn't stick around. Now he has a second chance. If a Select Group referee makes a big or a couple big mistakes in the EPL, they do get sat or rotated down to the Championship. And if they have a terrible season, they could face demotion or forced retirement. But on a day-to-day basis, Select Group referees are employees and work in EPL on a (essentially) week-to-week basis. If we were in the habit of permanently demoting top-flight referees over one or two big mistakes, we'd be in big trouble worldwide. The point here is that if Hooper had been part of the Select Group, that performance probably would have seen him banished for 3-4 weeks. Unluckily for him, it happened in his first EPL match ever, so back to whence he came until he was deemed ready for his second chance.
I have to say that this RARELY happens. There is a referee specifically that comes to mind, but I will keep the yapper closed on this one. I definitely agree with this one and I would be hard pressed for anyone to find a positive reason, with referees in mind, that this would be a good idea. Definitely does give more merit to the whole VAR conversation though.
Generally a person in a trial spot is given a handful of games in order to settle in. Quite often a first game at a top level can be intimidating and nerves can create mistakes that may not usually happen. Similarly for the players. This effect is goes away after more games and gaining confidence. There were a few guys pre-PRO in MLS who got a "one-and-done" due to some errors, who otherwise might have developed into satisfactory referees but didn't get a second chance. Anyway it is good to see Hooper getting a 2nd chance. Hopefully he will be OK this time. If not I expect he will be done! PH
Well, I couldn't find the edit for my previous post, so here is my comment. I saw it also. FWIW, they went with the AR's signal.
Matchday 26 Saturday 3 February 12:30 Burnley v Manchester City Referee: Martin Atkinson Assistants: Peter Kirkup, Lee Betts Fourth official: Jonathan Moss AFC Bournemouth v Stoke City Referee: Paul Tierney Assistants: Marc Perry, Mick McDonough Fourth official: Chris Kavanagh Brighton & Hove Albion v West Ham United Referee: Roger East Assistants: Matthew Wilkes, Andy Garratt Fourth official: Kevin Friend Leicester City v Swansea City Referee: Anthony Taylor Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn Fourth official: Bobby Madley Manchester United v Huddersfield Town Referee: Stuart Attwell Assistants: Simon Long, Harry Lennard Fourth official: Mike Dean West Bromwich Albion v Southampton Referee: Michael Oliver Assistants: Simon Bennett, Stuart Burt Fourth official: Lee Mason 17:30 Arsenal v Everton Referee: Neil Swarbrick Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Daniel Cook Fourth official: Craig Pawson Sunday 4 February 14:15 Crystal Palace v Newcastle United Referee: Andre Marriner Assistants: Simon Beck, Richard West Fourth official: Lee Probert 16:30 Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur Referee: Jonathan Moss Assistants: Eddie Smart, Andy Halliday Fourth official: Martin Atkinson Monday 5 February 20:00 Watford v Chelsea Referee: Mike Dean Assistants: Ian Hussin, Adrian Holmes Fourth official: Bobby Madley Didn't realize until now that Tierney is on the FIFA list. Can't recall him doing a big Premier League game. Moss with the game of the week and Attwell at Old Trafford.
In other news, former Premier League referee Paul Alcock passed away at the age of 64. Many will probably remember him being pushd over by Paolo Di Canio in 1998. http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42871581
I watched his first game with a FIFA badge a couple weeks ago and I thought it was Attwell for the entire half.
Wow. Watching MU v HUD at the moment. No one dislikes MU more than me, but I really don't get how a referee from 5 yards away doesn't call a PK when the MU player is smashed into at a very high rate of speed just after he plays the ball. Obvious PK and probably should have been a VC red. I don't know that I've seen this Atwell guy before but that was a shocking decision for a guy wearing a white badge.
Yikes. Just saw the replay but what was the restart? I wonder if he had called a foul on lukaku and thus ball was out of play by that time.
Ironic that you all think he doesn't deserve a FIFA badge, and apparently he doesn't think so either. It fell off with about 3 minutes left in the first half and does not reappear for the rest of the game.