Playoff Procedures

Discussion in 'Austin Aztex' started by Barbaro, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. Barbaro

    Barbaro Member

    Roma
    United States
    May 3, 2004
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    USSF announced some clarifications of the playoff system on Friday. Nice writeup in Inside Minnesota Soccer. Most notable: no away-goals rule. First round Oct. 6-7 & 9-10 (Wed-Thu and Sat-Sun), with the higher-seeded team getting to pick its date first. The Aztex are sounding like they will choose to play on the weekend, even though it's against ACL Fest.

    Here's my matchup prediction; I've optimistically tabbed the Aztex as #1, though that'll be a tough get. Rochester should win their last four games (Tampa, Miami twice, St. Louis), which means the Aztex would need four wins as well, out of a tough remaining schedule.
    1-8. Austin-Tampa Bay
    4-5. Portland-Carolina
    2-7 Vancouver-Montreal
    3-6. Rochester-Puerto Rico
     
  2. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First tiebreaker is head-to-head, so with Rochester having won here, and us getting a tie up there, they have the tiebreaker. So we need to beat them on points.
     
  3. CplDaniel

    CplDaniel Member

    Jul 2, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :mad:I am going to cry when I lose my soccer fields to ACL.:mad:
     
  4. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as the stadium remains far enough north to avoid downtown gridlock during ACL and SXSW and the like... Of course I'm biased towards its location, since I live north of the stadium. ;)
     
  5. Barbaro

    Barbaro Member

    Roma
    United States
    May 3, 2004
    Austin, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yes, I'm almost certain they're planning on keeping House Park where it is, at least through ACL Fest. ;)
     
  6. TexasBarcaFan

    TexasBarcaFan Member

    Aug 31, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Thanks for that link Barbaro.

    I think I'd rather play Montreal rather than Tampa in the first round. Only bad thing would be not having Yordany for the away leg.
     
  7. TwoMeters

    TwoMeters Member

    Jan 27, 2008
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As long as it didn't drift too far downstream in the flash floods last night.
     
  8. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We now have a choice for pregame tailgating. Both the Tavern and the Shoal Creek Saloon are floating somewhere around the 18 yard box.
     
  9. -ATX-

    -ATX- Member

    Mar 24, 2009
    Austin
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since playoffs aren't a common form of deciding soccer league champions I don't think I've seen the use of 'Magic Number" but in this case it seems relevant.

    So the Aztex currently have a magic number of 12. This basically means that if the Aztex gain at least 12 points out of their next 5 matches they are guaranteed the top spot in the USL and USSF D2 playoffs. 12 points would leave us with 61 total points.

    Currently we sit in second place behind the Rhinos who have a 2 point advantage with 3 matches left and cannot have more than 60 points at the end of the season.

    The good news is, the Aztex control their place in the playoffs. The challenge for the Aztex is they might have to win 4 of their last 5 to achieve the top spot. So any combination of earned points for the RAW and dropped points by the rhinohoes will decrease the magic number.

    So bring your self and your friends to Mr. Tramps to the watch event tonight and help cheer on your Aztex!

    Current table here--> http://ussf.demosphere.com/Schedules/2010/20952154.20104.html
     
  10. mgrayscale

    mgrayscale Member

    Mar 10, 2008
    Buda, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I couldn't agree more. We need everyone at Mr. Tramps, so unless you're losing a lung, get your A$$ down and join the Army and the rest of the Aztex Nation in supporting our boys. It's crunch time!!
     
  11. -ATX-

    -ATX- Member

    Mar 24, 2009
    Austin
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Aztex magic number is down to just 8. A drop of 4 points in just 2 days. Saturday could decrease that number by 3 more when the boys visit St. Louis. Join the Army at MrTramps for the match!
     
  12. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What's it looking like at the other end of the table, in terms of who the first and second seeds will likely play in the first round?
     
  13. -ATX-

    -ATX- Member

    Mar 24, 2009
    Austin
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. mgrayscale

    mgrayscale Member

    Mar 10, 2008
    Buda, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Man, talk about props. I owe you a beer, ATX.

    To the question, if the playoffs started right now (not including today's results), the matches would be...

    Seed #1 v. #8
    Rochester Rhinos v. NSC Minnesota

    Seed #2 v. #7
    Vancouver Whitecaps v. Montreal Impact

    Seed #3 v. #6
    Austin Aztex v. Puerto Rico Islanders

    Seed #4 v. #5
    Portland Timbers v. Carolina Railhawks

    The higher see has the choice of when they play home and away. You can see how important it is that the Aztex win the league, not just for bragging rights, but taking on NSC Minnesota, based on history (this season) is preferable to Puerto Rico. If we win the USL Conference, we're #1. We cannot climb beyond #3 if we do not win it (#1 in NASL will take #2 USSF D2 position.
     
  15. -ATX-

    -ATX- Member

    Mar 24, 2009
    Austin
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There ya go...thanks for the beer offer but it is I that owe you one.
     
  16. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you, Miami!!!
     
  17. mgrayscale

    mgrayscale Member

    Mar 10, 2008
    Buda, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So after tonight, the Aztex number is still 8. Unfortunately, due to our *#@! loss at St. Louis, we have 3 games to get it in. So we must win every match remaining or else our #3 seed stands. That means beating AC St. Louis in Austin, Carolina in Cary, NC, and Montreal in Montreal.

    Crap.
     
  18. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that it necessarily matters that much because the bottom half of the table is shuffling all over the place, but with the way things have been going, there's a chance that Portland could catch us. Actually, if they win both theirs (Baltimore and Vancouver) and we lose all of ours, they'd pass us, but as annoying as this weekend was, I can't see us losing all three of our remaining games. But I can imagine us only getting a tie.

    If that happens (us getting only 1 point, and Portland winning their remaining two), that puts us tied with Portland, and our head-to-head is also knotted up, with ties both here and there.

    So, I'm wondering what the second tiebreaker is.
     
  19. mgrayscale

    mgrayscale Member

    Mar 10, 2008
    Buda, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure. I looked online, and there is very little outside of NSC Minnesota's & Inside Minnesota Soccer's articles on the Playoff Clarification call (not record of it at www.ussoccer.com). Goal differential maybe? Or is that too practical for the league this year?

    The biggest things I saw were the lack of the away ball rule, and the new ball that would be used for the playoffs.
     
  20. duality72

    duality72 Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New ball for the playoffs? Just when I thought D2 soccer couldn't get any dumber.
     
  21. crazy al

    crazy al Member

    Dec 11, 2005
    Fort Worth, TX
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have always felt it important to play for the hardware at hand. Austin can still win the league and the hardware that goes with it (even if we have to make the trophy ourselves). We can see how damning this is if we can't climb over Rochester.

    I think having this week to regroup will let the Aztex find their rhythm. We need to focus on playing well now. If we do that, points will come. A victory at home will be a great tonic for this team. And as the great Carlos Bianchi says, "Each new win calls out to another." Let's hope that is true.
     
  22. Blackburn

    Blackburn New Member

    Mar 13, 2007
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So with Rochester losing to Miami, our magic number is 2, with 2 games to play.

    Come on you Aztex! (also, much as I hate to say it, come on ACSL!)
     
  23. mgrayscale

    mgrayscale Member

    Mar 10, 2008
    Buda, TX
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The other thing is that Puerto Rico has now locked in the 8th place spot, so if we maintain our current #1 position, we will face them in teh Quarterfinals. We will have to find our form in Bayamon, in order to move on to the Semifinals.

    One other playoff note of interest is that with Carolina's win over Puerto Rico last night, and Vancouver's loss to Montreal on Friday, the Railhawks have jumped into the #1 position in the NASL. You can find the latest matchings for the quarterfinals (if they were played today) at the Chantico's Army website.
     
  24. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And one other bit of information that I heard: If we play Puerto Rico, our playoff game will be Sunday rather than Saturday. Because Puerto Rico can't get their home stadium on Wednesday.
     
  25. babieca

    babieca Member

    Jul 12, 2009
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Works for me. I would be quite happy to get to watch the USA-Poland game in real time.
     

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