Philadelphia Union 2018/2019 Off-Season Thread

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by jaykoz3, Oct 31, 2018.

  1. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well with the Union ending the 2018 season like the sacrificial lambs they have all too often been since year Zolo, it's time to start looking ahead to the 2019 season. What changes will be made? Will Ernst make a head coaching change? Will Tanner find a suitable (& productive) replacement for Dockal? Will Trusty be sold? Inquiring minds....errrrrr....slightly interested Union fans want to know! :(
     
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  2. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know I'm a broken record, but Sapong's sudden decline in play from last year to this one was the major factor in our performance. He can no longer play either striker or midfielder. When he is on the field we might as well be playing with 10 men. So cutting him or renegotiating his contract is a priority.
     
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  3. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would be interesting to see if there is any chance for even a slight change in the level of ambition or acquisition philosophy under Tanner. I certainly don't anticipate any, though, since he's not the guy who cuts the checks.
     
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  4. LiverpoolFanatic

    Liverpool FC, Philadelphia Union
    Feb 19, 2000
    Lancaster, PA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to Union 2.0?
     
  5. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't believe how many people I've seen on various media speaking of Dockal coming back as if it's a foregone conclusion.

    The guy had an amazing season and got himself featured on his National Team. Knowing the way the league in China works, there is no way the Union can afford what they are going to be looking for. Even if they have to reduce a bit, he's still going to command 7-figures on just his transfer fee.
     
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  7. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it would take a pretty big signing for people to be excited for this team again. Like Rooney big. Zlatan big.

    You have to think it's going to be empty down there next season. Emptier I should say.
     
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  8. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    wasn't aware it's "been clear" ... but I'll take it.


    Off-season wish list, in no particular order:


    • Striker
    • CAM (assuming Dockal isn't retained)
    • Right Wing
    • Left Back
    • Coach

    I also predict the team expecting Picault to have another great year and Fafa pulling a CJ... meh, maybe Accam will have a miraculous come back.
     
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  9. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well Tanner has said hardly anything publicly except supporting Dockal. Last night might have him reconsidering though.
     
  10. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    We really need a true 6. I love Haris but we have to be able to put an elite defender with passing ability in that spot. I'm hoping Jones can be that guy, but if not then they need to find him. We need to figure out how to start owning midfield property.
     
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  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This. Just look at how different NYCFC is with Yangel Herrera patrolling the midfield compared to the 2-3 months he was out. It's night and day. Hopefully Derrick Jones can be that player....though he's getting to a point in his development where they may need to move on if he doesn't step up in the pre-season.

    Striker is a gaping black hole for this team, and has been since 2010 (minus the hot minute Ruiz was with the team). Spare me the Seba* talk.............he was a midfielder playing striker, not to mention he was the only good player on a terrible team.

    Ernst has his work cut out for him this offseason............

    *I love Seba as much the next Union fan, but I am under no illusions that he's an all time great MLS player. He's an all-time great Union player and Legend/Icon for sure. Let's be honest though, that's not saying a helluva lot considering the Union's albeit short, yet terrible history.
     
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  12. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, the 50-50 club in MLS still doesn't have that many members. And the names that are next to Seba's on that list are nothing to scoff at.

    JMO, though.
     
  13. cwelch999

    cwelch999 Member

    Jul 5, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the fact that he put up those numbers with the (mostly) mediocre-to-bad teams he was on makes the numbers all the more impressive.
     
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  14. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thoughts on trading/moving Fafa while his value is high?
     
  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean the guy who scored 2 goals this season?
     
  16. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say yes, depending on what you get in return.
     
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  17. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well, on the other hand, even bad teams score and someone has to do it. And he couldn't have done it on a good team because he wouldn't have been the primary scorer.
     
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  18. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Back to Year 1 of the 5 Year Plan
     
  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #19 jaykoz3, Nov 1, 2018
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 2, 2018
    That list will start to grow VERY quickly in the next few seasons. Giovinco's in the club in 4 seasons.......Piatti & Kei Kamara may join the club next season. If Almiron stays in the league, he'll likely enter the club within 2 seasons.....

    Point...that club is not that exclusive anymore.

    Bigger point: The Union have severely lacked difference making talent for their entire existence. One difference make up top, and this current Union team would have a good chance at making noise in the playoffs. They don't and well............bounced on the road in the knockout round because they could only manage two points against San Jose, Colorado, and Orlando (2x) this season. Manage 2-3 more points in those 4 games and at WORST the Union are hosting a sparsely attended Halloween night Knockout Round game.

    When he did play for better and more talented teams (Red Bulls, Whitecaps, Sounders (MLS)) he didn't put up good numbers.

    He was to the Union what Shariff Abdur-Rahim was to the Grizzlies.....
     
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  20. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Since we signed him on a free, this would be perhaps the most profitable deal since selling Lahoud to Miami for $50k and a Flan of the Month club membership.
     
  21. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    With his propensity to stand still, point and bark instructions at others, I think Haris needs to be transitioned into coaching.
     
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  22. celt1997

    celt1997 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    Philly Burbs
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Funny you mention that. I'm not sure how many of you follow games on the Reddit Match Threads, but one of my favorite things from Wednesday night had to do with what you stated here.

    The guy posted wanting to know why our team just seemed so angry all the time (it wasn't you was it @Phillyspur ?). And the more I thought about it, the more I found myself agreeing with that simple observation.

    There are a lot of soccer players who complain about this and that, but our guys seemed, all season, to consistently be angry - yelling & screaming (at each other, coaches, referees, etc.). I guess that says everything about this organization.
     
  23. mattylip

    mattylip Member+

    Philadelphia Union
    Jul 22, 2011
    Cherry Hill (127, D)
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Before everyone jumps on the "we need a high priced foreign striker bandwagon," remember that the two highest priced strikers, Zlatan and Rooney, played for a team that did not make the playoffs (LA Galaxy) and a team that made it as far as the Union made it in the playoffs (DCU).

    Meanwhile, Portland starting Jeremy Ebobisse, ($130,000) made it to the next round. Moreover, the starters on Columbus (Zardes - $630,000) and RSL (Kreilach - $930,000) earn less than Dockal, Bedoya and Accam.
     
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  24. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's a candidate.

     
  25. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    High priced players isn't an instant win card but it does show ambition. That is something the Union have never shown. ever.

    Also Zlatan and Rooney are the worst examples you could ever pick. LA and DCU were both dead in the water before those players came. Zlatan single handedly brought LA back from the dead to the brink of playoffs and Rooney did the same for DC to the point where he got them to the 4 seed and a home playoff game.
     

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