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  1. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paul says "it's not Jay's fault" that his players are getting sent off -- "he told them not to."
    1) They don't listen to him
    2) How did he tell them, how did he reinforce it?
    3) They don't listen to him.

    Jay, why are only 3 players busting their butts in this game?
    Jay, why is your team time-wasting when down one and then two goals?
     
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  2. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DEAD TEAM WALKING
     
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  3. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    Dead organization not working!
     
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  4. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Must lose, did lose, fire Heaps.
     
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  5. CynicRev

    CynicRev New Member

    Mar 19, 2012
    Club:
    New England Revolution
     
  6. MM66

    MM66 Member+

    Mar 9, 2009
    Brookline, MA
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'm assuming that was for the second goal. Angoua stopped and Rubio kept going. And that was pretty much game over.
     
  7. BERich

    BERich Member+

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today's math lesson:

    Bad Coaching (#HeapsOut) + Bad Players (#FireBurns) = Bad Team (#FireBilello)

    Nemet's elbow was so deliberate that I wondered if he had a bet on how long it would take to get red carded. Now we know why he was unemployed before Burns found him.
     
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  8. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're setting your sights too low.
     
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  9. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Right or wrong, the sense I get as that the franchise lacks purpose. They don't know what they want to be. And if you don't know what you want to be, then it's impossible to know how to get there.
     
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  10. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems to be the New strategy - go down to 10 men early in the game then blame everyone else for losing.
     
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  11. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    and so far so good.......;)
     
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  12. dncm

    dncm Member+

    Apr 22, 2003
    Boston
    Heaps goes crazy in 73' when he thinks there is a handball, and per Mariner, leaves his technical area and runs 15 yards down the sideline. Only for the center ref, 4th official to tell him he is wrong. The score was 3-1 at this time.

    Sounds like a youth coach that just doesn't get it.

    Sounds like a professional coach in over his head and grasping at straws like a madman.
     
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  13. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like a former player for coach K, the king of such antics
     
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  14. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    None of which would matter, if he had a decent grip on tactics.
     
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  15. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heaps sounds like Clinton blaming everyone on the defeat and taking no responsibility at all. Mirror time Jay. The last few games the team has play uninspired soccer. A team that should be fighting for their playoff lives looked uninterested.
     
  16. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're going to blow the core up this off-season. Pretty confident one or more of Kamara, Lee, Koffie, Watson etc will be gone. Who knows maybe even Tierney or Caldwell won't be here. Just seems like the same feel as the end of 2011 with No cop. You could see it in his face like you see it with Heaps now. This is a much better team talentwise but the coaching change and squad turnover feels inevitable.
     
  17. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IMO there is no way to predict anything until we know
    (1) Will the clean and replace Heaps et al
    (2) Who will be the replacements

    This roster is better than its played under the current leadership
    We don't need a blow up as much as new leadership
    and
    fleshing out with depth and one or more game changing quality players
     
  18. Steve_R

    Steve_R Member

    Feb 25, 2001
    Somerville, MA
    I agree. This roster is head and shoulders above the quality of the roster we finished the Nicol era with.
     
  19. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doc all due respect but I think you missed what I was saying. In 2011 they had Feilhaber and a few others but the overall talent level was much lower. This team is more talented and just as bad. Just like they didn't renew No cop then they won't renew Heaps now. That's the comparison.

    As far as next steps, this one is straight forward. The Krafts are sportsmen as you d day. They are businessmen who want to win. After missing the playoffs 2 straight years with some horrific performances this season, why would they not clean house? I can't see a scenario they re up Heaps. It won't happen he's gone. Maybe Burns with him.
    To keep it simple:
    1 - yes
    2 - Brian Wright, Herivaux and someone they pick up in a trade, off waivers or through the draft will step up.
     
  20. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    then again so is the entire league
     
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  21. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lee's contract is up in Dec. I would imagine he will play this out and see who the team hires as coach and if they fire Burns, entertain offers then decide
     
  22. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Koffie's on loan so that's a safe bet. But I wouldn't consider Kamara or Watson a core member at all. Kamara is too old to build around and Watson is a utility backup player. IMO, our core is

    Rowe, Fagundez, Delamea, Caldwell, Nguyen, Agudelo, Kouassi, Farrell, Cropper, Tierney.

    Dielna and Nemeth haven't been here long enough to be considered core members, but are clearly valuable.

    People have been saying Nguyen's contract is up - no idea if that's true. If it is, I wouldn't be surprised to see him move on, maybe even to LAFC.

    Tierney has past the period where he was a solid starter, and his value to the team may be more as a utility player and locker-room guy, but I think he still is valuable (he's also cheap, at $125k).

    Our core guys are fairly cheap (other than Kouassi) and I think the addition of a top quality left back, a fast left-footed winger attacker, and a dominating #6 to replace Koffie puts this team at the level of NYCFC/Chicago (as far as the starting XI).
     
  23. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IIRC, most MLS loan deals have an option to buy. Do we know he's an exception?
     
  24. a517dogg

    a517dogg Member+

    Oct 30, 2005
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I thought that was no longer a requirement for MLS, but I'm not sure.
     

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