On the 3rd goal, obstruction by nyrb on Bingham. Plus the ball touched him which by defenition makes him part of the run of play. And when the ball was struck he was on an offside postion. Ref saw it on VAR an still awarded the goal! That is why I'm pissed off.
Actually a pretty good game if not for the outcome. Lots of goal scoring opportunities for both sides. We played really well at times but lost our shape and ceded too much open space in front of our goal.
I didn't see the ball touch him, but if it did, then for sure that's offside. I sort of agree with Twellman in that the RBNY forward did not interfere with Bingham because Bingham leaped out of the way of the play. If he had not jumped, would probably have been called back.
From my perspective, this game was lost because Bingham played poorly. At least two of the goals were clearly stoppable [in an average sense of what a professional keeper should see as daily bread]. As a whole, I though the Galaxy were strong and creative...but if you had a Hartman, or Reis, or Penedo, in goal....well, then, you would by my bet for MLS Cup.
Mmmm. Bingham made some pretty good saves in this game. The one I remember off the top of my head was on Fernandez, who probably would've had an assist had he thought to square the ball. I think that play alone showed how let out to dry Bingham was consistently, there were two men behind the defense on that play. Which is not necessarily a counter to the argument that he's not an elite keeper, but on a better defensive day I think he'd done enough to win or at least tie this game. We gave up a lot of chances, and if NYRB had a better finish, it's probably a worse look for us.
I think Bingham should have stopped the 2nd goal, but the other two were almost unstoppable (without totally guessing correctly where the ball would be going). He also made some really really good saves to keep the game close. So while Bingham wasn't the hero, he was also not the reason for the loss.
I don't know what they were smoking on the VAR offside call. The Galaxy player made a play on the ball and clearly touched the ball (irrefutable on video review). He was interfered with by a player in an offside position (irrefutable on video review). This contact clearly impacts Feltcher's ability to play the ball. This case is airtight. The case that Bingham was impacted (his line of vision clearly obstructed) was also strong based on positioning (but harder to confirm on video review and weakened because he acted like he saw the ball and jumped out of the way). Unsurpsingly another example where going with the AR's initial call would have gotten the call right and saved several wasted minutes of VAR. Speaking of wasted minutes - it sure seemed like stoppage time awarded did not match VAR + subs.
Yeah, not so airtight. At the time of the shot, I don't see any contact or interference between the RBNY forward and Rolf. At the moment of the shot, he is clear of both and falling away to the side, appearing to actually be trying to get out of the way so as not to interfere with the shot. Also if anything, Rolf is obscuring Bingham's sightline, not the forward. I'm OK with the call. I don't like weak or phantom calls taking goals off the board. It's hard enough to score a damn goal in soccer. BTW, I thought the RBNY offside could have legitimately been called onside. I would have let it go if it were up to me, though despite the directives from FIFA, most refs seem to like to call offside when they are level. Not sure what the heck Polenta was doing on the play either. I do agree with the added time. Should have been 5 or 6 minutes
I would like to shore up the defense with another good CB to partner with Polenta. I still do not think right now another keeper is a high priority. Not in the least. Use whatever funds we have for depth on field players and the keeper situation will improve on it own to a point. Once we have a team which does not stupid defensive mistakes like the one that cost is this game, then I can contemplate a new keep.
Yes, from the defense, from the mids and certainly in all those missed chances up front. The first goal Feltcher get caught watching the play and Bingham should anticipate this. The other two goals however... What the he'll are steres and polenta doing leaving the ok area completely alone for RB players to simply not in there and blast off on bingham? Really surprised on Polenta to screw up like this but where were our mids tracking back to fill the void and support.... Where!? amazing screwups that send me back to 2018. Galaxy lost this match. Lost focus indeed made twice as bitter because Chicago tied LAFC. They did their job... We sucked!
I agree of course that we all would like to get rid of the defensive mistakes. But in most games this season the reverse is true - Bingham has been protected from exposure by a better than average defense. But my bigger point is that in general a gk's performance has more influence (good or bad) on a game outcome than any single defender. Great keepers - like Hartman and Rimando in their primes - often changed game outcomes by 2 or 3 goals (or more) vs a replacement keeper. Plus a brilliant keeper making a crucial save after a defensive breakdown often shifts the momentum of a game 180 degrees. It's extremely rare for a single defender to have that kind of influence on a game. I know I'm beating this horse to death but I completely disagree with "the keeper situation will improve on it own" statement. Bingham is an ok keeper but he's still in the bottom half of MLS keepers imo. His reaction times are below par for his position. Go watch the individual highlights (not the recap highlights which mainly show goals) of any MLS game and you will see keepers regularly making amazing reaction saves. But ninety percent of Binghams so-called "great saves" that announcers and fans give him credit for come from a) Shots taken from outside the box. That's because his form looks good when he has more time to pick up the flight of the ball. b) Close range shots that happen to hit him. It's fine to call point out great positioning if that is the case. But if a shot from 3 feet happens to hit a stationary keeper it's not a "great save" - its either good (or great) positioning, a shooter mistake, or lucky. I'm not being pedantic here - terminology affects how gk's are evaluated. Binghams problem isn't just a below average MLS starting keeper reaction time either. He also plays too much in his head. He's often guessing when and where someone will shoot rather than watching the ball and instinctively reacting. He didn't move on the first goal because he didn't think there would be a shot that quickly. In-prime-Rimando/Hartman/Howard/Guzman/Johnson wouldn't be thinking - he would have been focused on the ball and instinctively reacted. It's true that the shot was from such short range they may not have saved it. But they would have reacted and probably at least gotten a finger tip on the ball. Bingham just stood there like a deer in the headlights. tldr vers: Bingham's is ok, but in reality below average. His play is costing us, and will continue to cost us, valuable points. We really need a keeper who can keep us in games we shouldn't be in. DB is not that keeper.
VAR did us wrong. I’d love to upgrade from Bingham, but midfield cost us this game. This is still the best place on the innernets for Galaxy analysis. Thanks peeps!
We will agree to disagree for right now. Do I want a keeper that will cost 3 to 5 times what Bingham costs or waste D P spot and then wait until he proves himself by saving miraculous saves in keeping us in what you describe as games we should not be in?... No. Even if we knew where to get a keeper such as this. Bingham is an average keeper that I won't lose any sleep losing in trade or upgrade but I would rather concentrate the money we have on field players because what happed this Saturday cannot keep happening. A complete breakdown of our defensive side. I want no more keystone kops. Then I worry about a better keeper.
I hear you - those mistakes have to be cleaned up and should be the first order of business. But in this game 2 of their 3 open shot goals were more due more to lazy tactics by our midfield rather than inadequate field personnel. I grant you their first goal was personnel related - Rolf is not agile or quick nor will he ever be. Spending $ to upgrade our rb position (if Araujo doesn’t solve our problems) makes sense. But goals 2 and 3 were the result of pretty good midfielders (Lletget, Pontius and Jona) going to sleep on the job. Lletget and Pontius were particularly bad about getting back the whole 2nd half (and in general). Part of this falls on coaching by GBS and his assistants. Players need to learn that getting back and staying with runners after a turnover isn’t an option. And that it is especially important when we are trying to protect a lead on the road. OTOH getting back on D isn’t all tactical - it’s also a personnel issue, in part. Really good players recognize where they need to be to help the team keep its shape and they make the effort to get there. So maybe it’s time to re-evaluate players like Lletget. I, like everyone on this board, am a huge fan of Lletget the person(-ality). Plus I love to watch his dribbling skills on display. But he seems to have plateaued offensively and his decision-making hasn’t improved like I hoped for him. He still tends to overdribble when a simple pass would be more effective. I could live with all of this if he was making up for it with his defensive work rate. But he and Pontius (and to a lesser extent Corona) often leave Jona high and dry, expecting JDS to carry the load of being the only midfielder playing defense. I’m a little softer on Pontius about this issue (though I think he should be doing better) mainly because I see Chris as an offensive specialist who no longer has the legs to run up and down the field for 90 min. I also am viewing him as a stopgap starter. His best role is as an offensive spark off the bench. But if Seb otoh wants to continue as a central mid mainstay he has to work harder on both sides of the ball. If he doesn’t then we need a personnel upgrade there as well.
PS* - agree that really good keepers don’t grow on trees and I don’t want to spend DP $ on one. I just think we could do better with a more athletic, more promising and more aggressive young keeper on his way up. I realize those are also hard to find. But maybe with DTK & GBS’s connections...? [* promise - no more Bingham comments from me for 24 whole hours!]
Not quite in the same way. Pre VAR ARs were told to hold the flag down until the player in the offside position participated in the play. Before that offside tended to be always called unless the player in the offside position indicated they were not participating. Now they're instructed to hold it down until the offensive phase of the play is complete and the flag the play if appropriate. http://www.espn.com/soccer/english-...ective-decision-not-a-clear-and-obvious-error