Our road to World Cup glory!

Discussion in 'Scotland' started by One Part, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland

    Amazing isn't it. Well, it would be if we didn't know any better regarding how it works in Scotland. A few of us were discussing this yesterday and it's bordering on preposterous that he can be so close to a Scotland call-up after only 7 games for Celtic.

    He has looked good in those matches but to simply bypass other players in his position, such as Lee Wallace, is a slap in the face to these guys and does nothing to help foster team spirit.
     
  2. Redondo85

    Redondo85 Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    Scotland

    Yeah, in principle i don't have a problem with him playing for Scotland (although qualifying through your grandparents does grate a little bit), it's just like you say far too early for him to be involved in the National set up when there are far more deserving players (at this moment in time) ahead of him. I thought Steven Whittaker played quite well at LB on Saturday, although i'm not entirely sold yet as he can be a little haphazard defensively.
     
  3. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    I agree. I also agree that defensively, he worries me. He can be a bit of a bomb scare as a full back but, he performed well on Saturday. I thought him and Maloney linked up very well at times down our left hand side.
     
  4. jethy

    jethy New Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Netherlands
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I love how people like Paul Dickov keep bringing up Scotland's 1-0 win over The Netherlands which happened SIX YEARS AGO! I mean, Portugal reached the Euro final in 2004 and now they are on the fringe of not reaching the World Cup. Look at the team Holland put on the pitch then:
    Edwin van der Sar (retired from International football)
    André Ooijer (still active, but old),
    Jaap Stam (retired) -
    Frank de Boer (Cap) (retired)
    Giovanni van Bronckhorst (still Holland's LB)(Clarence Seedorf 46)
    Phillip Cocu (retired)
    Andy van der Meyde (ruined his career)
    Edgar Davids (retired) (Rafael van der Vaart 60, was just coming up),
    Ruud van Nistelrooij (retired from int. footy)
    Patrick Kluivert (retired) (Roy Makaay 76, old)
    Marc Overmars (retired)
    Team likely to face Scotland tomorrow:

    Maarten Stekelenburg (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    John Heitinga (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    Andre Ooijer (was active)
    Joris Mathijsen (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    Gio (was active)
    Nigel de Jong (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    Demy de Zeeuw (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    Arjen Robben (debuted in 2003)
    Robin van Persie (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)
    Wesley Sneijder (was active, but one of his first caps was when Oranje beat Scotland 6-0)
    Dirk Kuyt (wasn't active in Dutch squad in 2003)

    Not to mention guys like Babel, Huntelaar and Van der Wiel. The media needs to stop bringing up that silly game. On the one hand I would like to see Oranje do well ofcourse, but I'd to see Scotland featured in SA ;) Good luck.
     
  5. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's much to do with my belief that Norway are the most negative football side in the universe. The thought of them potentially making it to the world cup sickens me, I'd much rather see Scotland there.

    Plus it won't hurt to see our players brought down to planet earth.
     
  6. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    I think the point of bringing up these things is to remind people that it can be done in a one-off game. The team we had back then was quite a bit worse than we are right now IMO but you still have people in Scotland completely writing off our chances of getting a win. It's ridiculous.
     
  7. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Norway don't have a chance in hell of reaching the World Cup, no matter what happens on Wednesday.
     
  8. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland

    I'm with you on this. Which makes it all the more worrying to still be hearing reports that he might not be fit to take his place between the sticks tomorrow. Holland are going to create chances. No doubt about that. I'd be a much happier bunny knowing Craig Gordon was our last line of defense.
     
  9. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Realistically Holland will beat Scotland nine out of ten times. But ever since Holland qualified the players have had motivation problems. And a badly motivated Holland side can be beaten by anyone.
     
  10. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Well I hope you're right. That side annoys the hell out of me.
     
  11. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Let's not go mental eh?

    Since I've been supporting Scotland, our record against Holland reads (W-1, D-1, L-2).
     
  12. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Yeh but I still think realistically the Dutch should beat the Scots nine out of ten times. Simply because of the quality in the squad. They don't always, but they should.
     
  13. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Why not ten then?
     
  14. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Getting a bit nervous and work are trying to arrange a meeting from 7:30 - 8 tonight! Aye right...
     
  15. Erwin6174

    Erwin6174 Member

    Jun 13, 2008
    The Netherlands
    Because we have a few too many prima donna's.
     
  16. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    What Erwin said. Some of our players think they're all that and are in the habit of underestimating (i.e. disrespecting) opponents.
     
  17. barack_obampot

    barack_obampot BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 28, 2009
    Confirmed team for tonight


    Gordon

    Hutton Weir McManus Whittaker

    Hartley
    Naismith Brown Fletcher Maloney

    Miller​
     
  18. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Or maybe because football just plain doesn't work like that.
     
  19. Gordon EF

    Gordon EF Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 15, 2004
    Edinburgh
    Craig Gordon's out apparently and David Marshall will start in goals.

    That's a pretty devastating blow IMO.
     
  20. Pedro's greasy do

    Nov 7, 2008
    London
    Club:
    Glasgow Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Noooooooooooooooooooooo! That's a massive blow.
     
  21. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland

    I was about to say that the above team was looking pretty good. Caldwell has no right to walk straight back in as he's been indifferent for us so far this season and the fact that Alexander has been removed is a big bonus. Naismith one side and Maloney the other should give us enough width and give the Dutch plenty to think about on the flanks, and then...

    you go and pull the carpet from under our feet with that bombshell! If Gordon is indeed out, then I think it's fair to say we'll need to score twice at least if we have any hopes of taking three points tonight.
     
  22. Borussia

    Borussia Member+

    Jun 5, 2006
    Fürth near Nuremberg
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It's all over now. Pity.

    Haven't seen the game, did your guys have scoring opportunities to get the crucial 3 points before the late 0:1?
     
  23. frasermc

    frasermc Take your flunky and dangle

    Celtic
    Scotland
    Jul 28, 2006
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    Yep.
     
  24. soccer krazy

    soccer krazy Member

    Nov 30, 2005
    California
  25. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
    Purged by RvN
    Burley out. Bring Boyd back. That is all.
     

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