Pre-match: Oranje vs. Bulgaria & Italy

He is exactly the opposite of what we need now.

We need a cold tactician coach who will make our average squad to be as effective as possible.

Wenger is a tactician clown, a vile loser, and his love for young players is irrational and somehow disturbing...

 

I thought Wenger in his Arsenal's early years was brilliant.. late 90's and early 00's, incl. the Invicible season. I gave him a ton of credits to transform the then-"average" players like Henry (outcast from Juve) and Bergkamp (failure from Inter) to club legends, plus raised up Adebayor, Cesc, Wilshere, etc. to prominence. His rebuilding project post circa 2006/7 (after Emirates move?) to present has been tough, there no doubt. The fact that he's very cheap makes it even worse. As a tactician, I like his approach. He favors free flowing football. He's known to play with strong wingers and two attacking full-backs, which is something that the Dutch system is accustomed to or aspired to be.

Maybe this is lost in translation.. but what does "cold" tactician mean? Can you name one who might fit the profile?

 

And shtting their pants when they could have us in the 2014 final until the fatal penalty kick.

 

Henry and Bergkamp already had the potential to be legends, even if they failed in Italy. He made them to be legends in a way,ok, but it's also because of staying 11 years with Arsenal that Bergkamp has such a tiny palmares. Plus he didn't even use Bergkamp during the CL finale in 2006 while it was his first CL finale and last year with the club

Wenger is a bad tactician, he is too emotional and irrational. How could Arsenal win titles with a guy like Justin Hoyte being a starter ? Who decided to put Justin Hoyte ? What about the Denilson, Aladiere...The reason why Arsenalmissed titles is because there are at least 4/5 weak players in the line-up every year. Players Wenger gives his entire trust to. Wenger is definitely the type of coach able to put De Ligt starter in a CL game.
Wenger used to recruit only in the french ligue 1 back then, going to rubbish players such as Sanogo, to prove he was irrational and not objective in his football choices. I must admit Arsenal played some good football though, and Wenger could make an average player to look like a top one until the opposition and importance of the game become too strong.

Adebayor ifor example s a good striker but has never been a top one nor a very good one. He just was very good in the Arsenal system, like Flamini and many other average players were too.

By cold tactician I mean Conte for example...

 

To be fair with the stadium move wenger didnt have the money to spend, but kept arsenal in the top 4 for many years and at points challenged for the league. His tactics arent bad but the performances from the team and mistakes they make are. In any event he doesnt like international management and currently makes way more than the knvb are offering.

Brendan rodgers is much worse tactically so no to him too!

 

Rodgers is actually a very good tactician and very pragmatic. I would take him as the head coach for the Oranje in a heartbeat but I doubt that he'd be willing to do that. He carries an offensive philosophy and is a discipline of Guardiola and Cruyff. Not a bad option IMO.

 

So Jorge Sampaoli it is, as he said he wants the job (and probably knows we do pay peanuts) if we can believe Hard Gras. I wouldnot know any one else fit for the job and willing to call in the separation clause in his contract.

 

And lost a title in england by neglecting defence. He lucked out having luis suarez in the form of his life. That aside he hasnt won a trophy in England. Would still say bring lvg

 

He didn't lose the title by neglecting defence; there were individual errors that caused a collapse in their momentum. Gerrard slipping and allowing Chelsea to score (forcing the press and a second goal) was not because of Rodgers; neither was Henderson getting a red against City that ultimately broke the spine of the team.

The following season he switched to a more defensive 3-4-3 and it was the best defensive team in England from when it was implemented to the end of the season. Then he was just lacking in attacking talent. Liverpool have been a flawed squad for a while, and that Rodgers got the best out of Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Henderson and an aging Gerrard to almost lead them to the title against MUCH better teams (City, Chelsea, Arsenal, United at the very least) is more of a positive than a negative, IMO, it's the closest Liverpool have ever come to a title since the inception of the Premier League. Look at what he's done in Scotland now.

Though it's a moot point. Rodgers will not come to the Oranje.

 

They conceeded close to 50 goals, they had to go for it against palace because they had a worse goal difference than man city because of their defence. He had a flawed squad and didnt do enough to improve it. With 3-4-3 they finished 5th. Liverpool done well in coming 2nd as they had no european football. As for scotland, its pretty difficult not to win the title with celtic they have a huge advantage over other teams.

 

Okay, I have the impression this thread is collecting posts that have another thread where they belong!

 

I'm afraid Locadia will be called as a winger in the next list.

 

I donot speak Namibian, so what country?

 

Yep, because it makes no sense it is beyond the brainy ones