Orange, the rebuild starts now

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by feyenoordsoccerfan, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Dumfries is good at getting up field but has been terrible defensively
     
  2. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Holland is doomed
     
  3. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    HT ratings

    Cillessen - 6
    Dumfries - 1
    Van Dijk - 2
    De Ligt - 1
    Blind - 1
    De Roon - 1
    De Jong - 2
    Wijnaldum - 1
    Babel - 0
    Depay - 3
    Promes - 2
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Luukinho for Babel please
     
  5. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Very bad first half. What the hell happened to the team?
    Very good young German team on the other hand.
     
  6. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Not quite. 2nd place automatically qualifies
     
  7. 2nd_striker

    2nd_striker Member

    May 21, 2008
    London
    Babel is crap! Also water is wet!
     
  8. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Babel shots were right at the keeper
     
  9. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Bergwijn for Babel, I don't understand that sub at all
     
  10. Transfer87

    Transfer87 New Member

    Mar 24, 2019
    I HAVE NOT BEEN THIS ANGRY TO A FOOTBALLPLAYER FOR A LONG LONG LOOOOOONG TIME.

    RYAAAAAAN BAAAABEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HOW CAN HE MISS THOSE CHANCES????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    NETHERLANDS WILL LOSE THIS GAME BECAUSE OF HIM!!!!!!!

    THIS IS HIS FAULT!!!!! I DON'T USUALLY BLAME SINGLE PLAYERS, BUT I WAS SO ANGRY THAT I HAD TO REGISTER JUST TO LET THIS OUT OF MY SYSTEM!!!!

    NETHERLANDS LOSING TO GERMANY IS UNACCEPTABLE! YOU SIMPLY CAN NOT MISS THOSE CHANCES WHEN THIS IS NETHERLANDS VS GERMANY!!! YOU CAN'T!!!

    I WAS ANGRY ALREADY WHEN I REALIZED THAT NETHERLANDS AND GERMANY WOULD BE IN THE SAME GROUP AGAIN, BECAUSE GERMANY HAD MORE TO WIN THAN LOSE.......THEY WOULD GET A QUICK CHANGE FOR REVENGE, BUT NETHERLANDS WOULD HAVE MORE TO LOSE THAN WIN.

    THEY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME GROUP AGAIN!!!! AAAARGH!!!
     
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  11. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014


    Anyone can slip like that plus Sane is arguably the fastest player I’ve seen for a while ..

    He’s just made amends with a real good goal .:)

    Anyways his ability on the ball means he’s ideal for us !!
     
  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Of course he is
     
  13. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    #1263 TitoTata, Mar 24, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2019
    It’s the system that needed tweaking not De Ligt who’s been great since the slip ..
     
  14. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    DEPAY!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
  16. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    How so??
     
  17. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    You watching the game ??
     
  18. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Yeah, but how did Koeman change the system??

    2-3. Thats too bad. We now have to focus on 2nd place
     
  19. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    Defense was atrocious. All deserve 0 ratings. Don't care that De Ligt got a goal, he was awful defensively. Van Dijk also looked like total crap
     
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  20. White/Blue_since1860

    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    @Brilliant Dutch
    Mickie Krause, seems like he was right

    First win in Holland since 96 btw
     
  21. Brilliant Dutch

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Can't help yourself, can you??
     
  22. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    First goal was a slip , second was a worldie , third was scored by a rare scorer getting his wrong foot to a decent cross - bet he was more surprised than anyone ..

    Meantime how many chances were missed by Holland ??
     
  23. Oranje98

    Oranje98 Member

    Aug 8, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I am so disappointed with this result. Actually, even 2-2 wasn't satisfactory for me, let alone a 2-3 loss.
    I think, however, this is a good timing for a loss. It's enough before the nations league and the Euros, so that Koeman and the players can get their feet into the ground again and work on solutions.
    Obviously, Dumfries needs to improve his defensive game. the three German goals came from his side!
    We need pacier players upfront. Stengs, Danjuma & Dilrosun should get a chance.
    Our midfield is still not good enough for the top level. They were dominated big time tonight.
     
  24. venema20

    venema20 Member

    Jun 17, 2014
    #1274 venema20, Mar 24, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 24, 2019
    Cillessen - 5. Made some big saves but also let in 3. Needs to go to a team where he can actually play instead of always sitting on the bench.

    Dumfries - 2. Love the way he gets up field and how aggressive he can be, but he got burnt a few times defensively and was caught behind the Germans too many times

    De Ligt - 1. Worst performance in an Oranje jersey yet. Absolutely dreadful defending. Gave up way too much space and lost his markers way too often. Even with the goal he had a brutal day. Still so young and promising but showed he still has a lot to learn

    Van Dijk - 4. Definitely not the type of performance we sre used to from VVD. Didn't close gaps quick enough and seemed to struggle with the pace at times from the Germans.

    Blind - 2. Takes way too long to make plays. Gets the ball and can't move it quick enough to try and counter. I'm getting so tired of seeing Blind in an Oranje jersey.

    Wijnaldum - 2. A very poor performance for Wijnaldum. I'm a big fan of his at Liverpool but too often he is invisible with Netherlands. Hardly noticed him out there.

    De Roon - 2. Does nothing to create. Supposed to help defensively yet the midfield gave up so much space for the Germans. Was pointless to have him out there.

    De Jong - 6. Part of the midfield that was lost in the first half. He started to shine in the second half. Made good reads and outlets that not many can do. Such a smart player but not at his best today .

    Babel - 0. The reason Oranje goes home with 0 points. Winger situation is awful.

    Memphis - 8. Player of the game once again for Netherlands. Always trying to create and had another two points. Brings his best for Oranje.

    Promes - 3. Made a good cross that should have been an assist. Other than that, he just doesn't seem to do anything with the ball. Not in good form.

    Bergwijn - 2. Only came on at half but did nothing. Like his potential but he has to start doing something.

    One of the worst first half performance I have ever seen from the Netherlands. Laid back and gave up all sorts of room to Germany and then tried to rush them at the worst possible times. It was mind boggling. Came out in second half and finally started comanding the game and pushed. Energy seemed to die late and they gave up a crushing goal.

    Even though the defense was dreadful today, a Van Dijk and De Ligt combo is great to have moving forward. Midfield you have De Jong who is world class and then up front Memphis is elite with Oranje. It is filling in those places though where it starts to get ugly still. Still need two much better wingers. A leftback and another top midfielder
     
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  25. Been reading the comments.
    First of all Babel was awfull, not because he missed the chances, but because he wasnot good in controlling the ball, keeping the ball, thus creating problems for Dumfries.
    In contrast to some posters I think FdJong wasnot good in the first half. His play caused problems for our CD duo.
    There was a strange nervousness in the team in the first half.
    This match should have been in "De Kuip".
     

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