One-Time Switches In/Out of USA Setup

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by BostonRed, May 16, 2013.

  1. DeAndresHaircut

    DeAndresHaircut Member+

    Jul 24, 2015
    Pennsylvania
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's got a unique skillset compared to the rest of our pool and he's only 23.....I assume Bruce has had the necessary talks with him so I'm very happy with this.
     
  2. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I like what I have seen of Saief. Could add something to the attack in midfield and on wings.
    Gold Cup would be the perfect way for him to acclimate into the US setup.
     
  3. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So there's two different Bruce's. There was LAG Bruce who criticized calling in players developed outside the US. Then there's NT Bruce who wastes little time in getting Saief to file a one time switch.

    Good pick up though. He can play as a true winger out left. We're very short on true wingers as the Nagbe/Bedoya types aren't true wingers. Can also play some ACM we're we're also quite short on options.
     
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  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To my knowledge he's brought in all the contending dual nats. Brooks Jones, Chandler, Fab etc. The one's he's left off are fringe players who he likely just doesn't rate.

    He even called in Joe Corona and Jesse Gonzalez which is surprising
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't remember that Bruce. The Bruce *I* remember criticized favoring such players.
     
  6. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And has the defensive chops to also play the LB position.
     
  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll admit I was wondering at the halftime of T&T if this was going to drop:
    874419690415828992 is not a valid tweet id
     
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I know folks are acting all surprised about this, but the writing has been on the wall for 6 months. Remember that Jesse had originally accepted a January camp invitation, before ultimately deciding not to go. He took 6 months to make this decision, and I of course think its the right one.............................

    Next FCDer to finish off is Jesus Ferreira.
     
  9. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that Mexico didn't let Gonzalez go without a fight:
     
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  10. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    If i was Saief, i'd ask to play LB...
     
  11. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    ESPN FC is reporting that there is still no paperwork at FIFA with Gonzalez's name on it.
     
  12. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The good news is that although no official paperwork has been submitted to FIFA yet, Gonzalez has already sent a signed letter of intent to the USSF to switch, confirmed by both ESPN FC and Sports Illustrated. And the USSF spokesman said the process for the one-time switch has already begun and Gonzalez is in the document-gathering phase. So it should just be a matter of time before he's with the US.
     
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  13. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like the application may have been submitted and FIFA is reviewing it.

     
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  14. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goff states directly that, according to the USSF, Gonzalez has filed the switch. This is all but a done deal.
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    I really hope that Jesse's advisors let him know that once the paperwork is filed...............that's it. He can't go back. Even if he never plays a game for the USMNT.

    Cuz his comments to the media throughout this whole process suggest he hasn't made a decision.
     
  16. Dr. Gamera

    Dr. Gamera Member+

    Oct 13, 2005
    Wheaton, Maryland
    Maybe Jesse's advisors should use the official FIFA language more: instead of "one-time switch", say "definite" and "irreversible" "change of association".
     
  17. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. Pcp Yoko

    Pcp Yoko Member+

    Jun 2, 2002
    Mid Peninsula
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The updated master list as of June 2017:

    IN
    Teal Bunbury
    Edgar Castillo
    Jesse Gonzalez
    Julian Green
    Aron Johannsson
    Fabian Johnson
    Jermaine Jones
    Aaron Maund
    Kenny Saief

    OUT
    Arturo Alvarez (to El Salvador)
    Dustin Correa (to El Salvador)
    Jeremy Hall (to Puerto Rico)
    Fuad Ibrahim (to Ethiopia)
    Gerson Mayen (to El Salvador)
    Nick Millington (to Guyana)
    Alex Nimo (to Liberia)
    Nevin Subotic (to Serbia)
    Zarek Valentin (to Puerto Rico)
     
  21. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Alejandro "Tony" Taylor played for U.S. youth internationals, then switched to Panama. So I'd think he qualifies.
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, he's mentioned above; just didn't make it on my updated list.
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The re-updated master list as of June 2017:

    IN
    Teal Bunbury
    Edgar Castillo
    Jesse Gonzalez
    Julian Green
    Aron Johannsson
    Fabian Johnson
    Jermaine Jones
    Aaron Maund
    Kenny Saief

    OUT
    Arturo Alvarez (to El Salvador)
    Dustin Correa (to El Salvador)
    Jeremy Hall (to Puerto Rico)
    Fuad Ibrahim (to Ethiopia)
    Gerson Mayen (to El Salvador)
    Nick Millington (to Guyana)
    Alex Nimo (to Liberia)
    Nevin Subotic (to Serbia)
    Tony Taylor (to Panama)
    Zarek Valentin (to Puerto Rico)
     
  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Should Moises Hernandez be on the "out" list?

    He was on our roster for the 2011 U20 CONCACAF Championships. Did he actually get to play in that tournament? I can't remember..................

    I think its possible he did, and had to file a one time switch to Guatemala.
     
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  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was able to find the technical report for the U20 WCQs in 2011 and he did play in 2 matches in the tournament.

    http://www.concacaf.com/article/under-20-championship-2011-technical-report

    That means he had to have filed a one-time switch to play for Guatemala.
     

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