Official Paulo Bento Thread

Discussion in 'Korea' started by killaorca, Aug 16, 2018.

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Should we sack him? The prayer to KNT god.

  1. Yes

    12 vote(s)
    34.3%
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    20.0%
  3. Wait

    16 vote(s)
    45.7%
  1. Ice cube

    Ice cube Member+

    May 4, 2014
    Club:
    Incheon United
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    His Portugal side were defensively well-organized. Thought he made decent tactical switches in-game, such as against USA in WC14 and Germany in Euro 2012 (although they lost). An obvious reliance on Ronaldo for attacking play. Pretty much what you'd expect from Portugal (solid defenders and CMs and Ronaldo up front). Maybe that's not anything special, but he played to the strengths of their team, which is something our past coaches have failed to do. A highlight is that I think he got the better of Spain in Euro 2012, given their resources.
     
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  2. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    The fact is that Bento is mainly seen as a mediocre manager, but fans still prefer him over CQ considering many Portuguese fans hate CQ, not just about his management style but as well as the failures he's had with Portugal. The best they've ever had was Luiz Felipe Scolari, whilst domestic names like Coelho and Fernando Santos is rated higher than Bento in terms of overall management style. Bento's four year stint with Portugual was neither bad nor exceptionally well, it was rather ok minding a room for more improvements.

    Tactically, I prefer AVB over Bento, but if you look at their entire management style side by side, they're not that far off from each other. only except AVB is more pragmatic than Bento is. Would've liked AVB if not for Quique, but then again, the lack of interest in managing our national team, especially for four years, whilst the likelihood of demanding a higher salary are the two main factors of a rejection.
     
  3. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    The point is that Bento never really failed at China like a lot of folks tend to see it as, especially when they're comparing how Stielike's Tianjin was placed higher than Bento's Chongqing on the table that it somehow means that Bento is shit or Stielike>Bento, which is not true. Again, Bento never got the chance to build and improve the team even when he kept them at a stable position from being relegated(Which was his objective).

    Beating Stielike in the CSL may not seem much of an accomplishment to you, but to every damn manager, a win and 3 points is very much obliged even in garbage leagues since it's all about remaining on the table and avoiding relegation.
     
  4. zeke714

    zeke714 Member

    Aug 9, 2018
    Same thing happen to him in Brazil and Greece. Had a year with both clubs and then sacked. So what are your excuses now?

     
  5. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    What's there to excuse about? his sacking in China wasn't justified, even with Olympiakos, he had them sitting at the top of table whilst securing the league title, but was eventually sacked with a game left due to the criticisms he made publicly regarding the team, not because of the three games losing streak. Olympiakos eventually won the title without him. His stint at Cuzeiro wasn't great, so he resigned due to multiple winless games, fair enough to say the least.
     
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  6. killaorca

    killaorca Red Card

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    If he was successful for both Olympiakos and Cuzeiro, he wouldn't be here. Let's be real we won't get a successful manager like Nagelsmann.
     
  7. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    What's your point?
     
  8. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    #283 Seol Korea, Aug 26, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018
    No point other than his detest for the CSL, J-League, ME, let alone condemning our players from going there. Oh, and his obsession over Nagelsmann.
     
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  9. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    good thing for us that past results are not indications of the future...
     
  10. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  11. chook90

    chook90 Member+

    South Korea
    Jan 2, 2015
    Al Khor, Qatar
    Club:
    FC Seoul
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
  12. zeke714

    zeke714 Member

    Aug 9, 2018
    So what is wrong with that? These are blackholes any sane players want to avoid. What is wrong with looking after your players??

     
  13. smrmgmd

    smrmgmd Member

    Apr 13, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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    Bento's first call ups for September's friendlies against Costa Rica and Chile.

    GK : Kim Seunggyu, Kim Jinhyeon, Jo Hyeonwoo

    DF : Kim Youngwon, Kim Minjae, Jeong Seunghyeon, Yun Youngseon, Yun Sukyoung, Hong Cheol, Lee Yong, Kim Munhwan

    MF : Jang Hyeonsu, Ki Sungyueng, Jeong Wooyoung, Ju Sejong, Nam Taehee, Hwang Inbeom, Lee Jaeseong

    FW : Lee Seungwoo, Son Heungmin, Mun Seonmin, Hwang Heechan, Ji Dongwon, Hwang Uijo
     
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  14. TaegukRedDevil

    Jan 30, 2014
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    The Jang Hyun Soo curse continues.
     
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  15. killaorca

    killaorca Red Card

    AFC Ajax
    May 11, 2010
    Pacific Ocean
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    I mean it's not much different from STY's but I can't blame him considering it's his first week and he won't know too much about this team.
     
  16. smrmgmd

    smrmgmd Member

    Apr 13, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    JHS as MF wasn't too bad against Germany. I can accept as long as he never plays CB again.
     
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  17. batumchange2

    batumchange2 Member+

    South Korea
    May 6, 2015
    i thought shin taeyong weeded out a lot of incompetent players from senileike days but here they are right back in the squad the moment hes gone. bento is going to take forever to realize he cant fix players like nam taehee who arent hungry enough. someone like cha duri needed to remain in the coaching staff for smoother transition
     
  18. smrmgmd

    smrmgmd Member

    Apr 13, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Someone should tell Bento that he should not pick players that are playing in ME if he wants to be successful.
     
  19. zeke714

    zeke714 Member

    Aug 9, 2018
    NTH is the exception but he has no motivation anymore.
     
  20. Uranusisnext

    Uranusisnext Red Card

    Grêmio
    South Korea
    Aug 16, 2018
    I wonder if not calling up Suk was one of the terms of the job offer. I also had a feeling he would call up the Messi of the Middle East. He probably saw his highlights thinking he'll emulate that kind of play for the NT. He'll be very disappointed.
     
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  21. 10August2012

    10August2012 Member+

    Oct 28, 2012
    Melbourne
    Club:
    Sunnanå SK Skellefteå
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Did SHJ sleep with some higher up's wife or something???
    What's he gotta do to earn a call up...
     
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  22. nmssis

    nmssis Member+

    May 21, 2011
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC

    would not blame him for changing citizenship
     
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  23. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    Dont get disappointed too quickly yet.
    Bento picked these players based on the WC squad + what KFA suggested + what he saw himself during K-league matches.
     
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  24. smrmgmd

    smrmgmd Member

    Apr 13, 2016
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He watched Seoul vs Pohang and Jeonbuk vs Sangju, but he didn't pick anyone who played those games.

    3 players who were picked from the teams he watched are Yun Seokyoung(Seoul), Hong Cheol(Sangju), and Lee Yong(Jeonbuk), but none of them played in the games he watched.
     
  25. LeeSeungWoo

    LeeSeungWoo Member+

    Jun 3, 2016
    HC and LY played in WC.. YSY prob recommended by KFA or Bento could've watched previous matches on TV. Who knows?
     

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