Official Pablo (as coach) thread

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  1. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How about 10 SOG?

    Can we put that in the win column?
     
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  2. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Not after what we witnessed this weekend. It looks like we locked up the wooden spoon.
     
  3. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    From the RFO: "And by wooden spoon, you mean top draft pick!"
     
  4. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That we already traded to Montreal for Eric Miller...
     
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  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that it really matters, but that's the last trade for one of our draft picks out there. We have a 2nd round pick next year from LA in the JJ trade and a conditional pick next year from DC in the Sarvas trade but no other trades of our picks other than next year's 1st round pick.
     
  6. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shouldn't Cooke be 9th, based on 3 losses versus 1?
     
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  7. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Did you expect rational thoughts from rfo? Marketing is everything.
     
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  8. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe but since Cooke will eventually get a point and move into 8th it was just easier.
     
  9. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    3 x 0 < 1 x 0?
    Worse, with one draw Cooke can be legitimately ahead of him w/ .25 ppg
     
  10. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What makes you so sure they will get another point this year? ;)
     
  11. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Optimist. :D
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.7059
    2. 1999 - Mooch - 1.59375
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.5333
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.4412
    7. 1998 - Mooch - 1.4375
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.40625
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    11. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    11. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    13. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2000 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.03125*
    20. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    21. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.926
    22. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*

    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    6. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    7. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    8. Cooke - 5 Games - 0.60
    9. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
     
  13. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    I kind of thought that since you were posting here and this thread got bumped that it meant Pablo finally came out with some type of statement about his tenure.
     
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  14. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    As much as I thought he had to go, with the way things have gone since they fired him,I sort of wish they had just let him finish out the season and then resign with some dignity. Its not like the interim situation is any better or a whiff of that new coach smell has drifted over DSGP.
     
  15. spot

    spot Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Centennial
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's better this way.

    Had they waited, Steve Cooke would be in pole position (let's be honest about the team adnd organization we support). The interim designation has been granted, and the inevitable collapse has followed....

    The option's been removed. The Rapids will have to proceed without a net - no matter how poor. Let's hope they make the right decision. At least one option will - unless there's a massive MASSIVE turnaround - off the table.
     
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  16. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Also, with the way it has happened, Pablo is able to say "I was doing the best one could expect with what I was given. See how poorly they played after I left".

    I can't imagine how frustrating it must have been to be in that position and suffered through that much failure for such a competitive guy.
     
  17. spot

    spot Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Centennial
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if he can spin that into a gig somewhere?

    I doubt anyone will hire him as the head coach at the moment. I do wonder if, around MLS, what the impression is regarding the Mastroeni and Rapids. Is it that Mastroeni wasn't up to the task, or are the Rapids such a crap-fest that he did what he could even if he is inexperienced?

    I wish the guy the best. He could go be an assistant somewhere and learn the trade a bit more before stepping back up.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Heard a rumor/prediction that he'll end up as an assistant to Bruce Arena with the Nats. Which is probably a good fit for him right now.
     
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  19. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing Pablo's departure confirmed is the lack of talent on the roster. Regardless of coach, this roster isn't competitive anywhere near the present MLS level. USL (maybe), but definitely not MLS.
     
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  20. kucsdat

    kucsdat Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    He would be a very good assistant, coaching defense ... is that a position one would be happy with after having been head coach? I don't know ... like Jasonma said, if it is an option, help coaching the nats sounds pretty darn good.
     
  21. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As bad as he washed out as a head coach he should be more than happy to be an assistant coach on a top 25 national team. If he has an issue with that he has a ego problem I wasn't aware of.
     
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  22. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Yes, if he lands that gig, (and they qualify for Russia) I would consider that 'failing upward'.
     
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  23. kucsdat

    kucsdat Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    Guess I wasn't clear, I think he would be a decent assistant coaching defensive techniques on another MLS team ... if Pablo lands the assist coach role for the nats, I think he's taking a step up.
     
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  24. spot

    spot Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Centennial
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That was on my mind as a possibility for hm.

    It wouldn't be a bad legacy for Arena if he trains up a generation of future coaches.
     
  25. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just can't see this given the hot seat that Arena is on these days, maybe after we qualify. I think the fans and Media would crucify him given PM's record as a coach.
     
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