Official 2018 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    Here is a link to what she wrote on Nojima's webpage.

    http://stellakanagawa.nojima.co.jp/news/pg1245760.html

    I will let you do the google translate.

    But basically she had nothing else left to give soccer. She mentioned that even when she graduated from university she thought about giving the game away. She does not mention anything about playing for Nadeshiko, which could mean anything. Her fondest achievement was gaining promotion to League 1.

    Also the manager of Nojima Masaki Kanno announced his retirement in November, which may also be linked to her deciding to retire.

    She went to quite an elite university in Japan, so she should be able to find a pretty good job.
     
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  2. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    I guess that he is a fan of Yoshida, and not a fan of Inac.:p
     
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  3. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Oh, these are also quite huge news: Kanno has been an highly charismatic guy, who did really a good job along these years, bringing Nojima from obscure Challenge League side to actually challenging Beleza and INAC for the title. I wonder what exactly will become of Stella Kanagawa after he leaves (especially if other players, following Takagi's example, should decide that it's not worth playing for the club anymore, now that he's gone: his vision was a a strong one, whoever will take his place will have big shoes to fill).
     
  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Yes, probably his opinion is that when a good young player goes to INAC, her destiny will mostly consist in sitting on the bench and possibly ruining her own career (it's happened in the past, although honestly in other cases INAC was a good place for some good talents to flourish instead).

    @Sirtel probably would have preferred these young players to be signed by a team who was going to give them actual playing time and who wa going to make them grow on the pitch, not on the bench and in training only.
     
  5. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    Akemi Noda has taken over.

    I believe she managed Beleza for two and a bit seasons. Other than that I do not know much about her.
     
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  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Oh, she was very good during those seasons at Beleza: INAC was dominant back them, but Noda had managed to put up a challenge and had won a Nadeshiko League Cup final in an era when INAC looked as unbeatable as Beleza looks right now.
    Also, she had a formidable attacking duo in Asano Nagasato and Mana Iwabuchi and she had shown good managing skills for what concerns the "human" side also, since she had been close to Iwabuchi when Mana had been hit hard by back-to-back serious injuries.

    I am happy to see Akemi Noda back on a Division 1 bench: she had been given Iga FC Kunoichi a pair seasons ago, but it was basically mission impossible for her: now, with Nojima, she should have the players to do good. I guess if there is someone who could keep this team growing after Kanno's retirement, it's her: good choice from Stella's management! :)
     
  7. Sirtel

    Sirtel Member

    Oct 28, 2015
    Pretty much what unepomme said. Well, "not a fan of Inac" isn't exactly accurate, but the point is that this move is probably bad for Nagi and definitely bad for the league.
     
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  8. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    #4433 #5nadeshikofan, Dec 21, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2018
    While Tanayo was a bad example how to handle players, Nakada and Miyabi have found their way into the team. There is a lot of evaluation going on, I am sure, to determine playtime..
     
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  9. KAPIJXM

    KAPIJXM Member+

    Nov 18, 2011
    Illa de Arousa,Spain
    Club:
    Celta de Vigo
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Not only that, this makes the 2 biggest teams even bigger, it can not be an interesting league if always the 2 same teams are fighting for the title every year. This could become like male spanish league...
     
  10. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    That makes sense. I have not paid enough attention to the league this year....
     
  11. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's result:

    Albi (Sayama) 1-2 Inac (Kyokawa, Takase)
    Nojima 0-1 Jef (Kamogawa)
    Beleza (Hasegawa, Tanaka 2, Miyagawa, Ueki, Kobayashi) 6-0 Mynavi
    Nagano 0-1 Urawa (Sugasawa)
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    So the semifinalists are almost the same as last year. It couldn't be exactly the same, since two of them were Nojima and JEF, that were clashing against each other in these quarter finals.

    In 2017, we had Beleza, Urawa, JEF and Nojima. This year we have INAC instead of Nojima (that, after all, had quite literally taken INAC's place in 2017, when Kobe's side had been unexpectedly eliminated at penalty shootout by Waseda University in the round of 16; Nojima Stella Kanagawa had subsequently beaten Waseda University in the quarter-finals).

    For two consecutive years, 2016 and 2017, we had seen an Empress' Cup final on the Christmas day. These time, instead, we won't even have the semifinals until 29th of December (the parings are: Nippon TV Beleza vs Urawa Red Diamonds Ladies and JEF United Ichihara Chiba Ladies vs INAC Kobe Leonessa). The final will happen in the early afternoon of the first day of 2019. :) I remembered that this tradition had already happen, but I had to check when: I follow Nadeshiko League since 2011 and, in that time-span, Empress' Cup's final was played on the first day of the year in 2011 and in 2014 (I mean the years of the whole edition: actually 2011's final happened on the first day of 2012 and 2014's final on the first day of 2015). In 2011(1st of January of 2012) INAC won by 3-0 over Albirex. In 2014 (1st of January of 2015) Beleza won over Urawa (a final that can't happen again, since they will clash in the semis) by 1-0 with a goal by Mina Tanaka (she can still hope that this date is a lucky charm for her).

    I wonder if we're going to see Beleza's dominance in this season extend to the beginning of 2019 or if some of the other three teams will manage to claim the title.

    Meanwhile, two of yesterday's scorers, Yuika Sugasawa and Mina Tanaka, lead this edition of Empress' Cup's top-scorers-rankings with 5 goals each; Mai Kyokawa and Yuka Momiki follow at 4. :coffee:
     
  13. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    University Championship started today.
    Winners of the first round (and the opponent of the second round):
    Keio (Teikyo)
    Ottemon (Shizuoka)
    Kibi (Toyo)
    Osaka Sports (Nittaidai)
    Sendai (Himeji Dokkyo)
    Shikoku (Kanagawa)
    Aichi Toho (Tokuyama)
    Daito Bunka (Waseda)
     
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  14. HS10Legend

    HS10Legend Member

    Mar 16, 2017
    Germany
    Club:
    NTV Beleza
    The strength of Beleza and their dominance over the domestic league,
    the last few years, is just amazing to watch. They surely must be the strongest club team in the history of the Nadeshiko league.

    I really hope, that AFC will set up a sort of Champions League for women in Asia,
    to figure out the strongest team in this region, because Beleza would deserve so much more recognition than they actually get.

    But that's just wishful thinking, i guess :(
     
  15. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #4441 Lechus7, Dec 24, 2018
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2018
    In 2012 only extra time goal was a diffrerence between Lyon and INAC

    Keep your hopes up! I read somewhere that it's seriously planned to start in 2020.

    Merry X-mas everyone!
     
  16. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Today's result:

    University Chamionship second round:

    Teikyo Heisei 2-1 Keio
    Ottemon (1-1, PK 5-4) Shizuoka Snagyo
    Toyo 3-0 Kibi
    Osaka Sports 0-2 Nittaidai
    Himeji Dokkyo 4-1 Sendai
    Shikoku 0-6 Kanagawa
    Tokuyama 3-1 Aichi Toho
    Daito Bunka 1-5 Waseda
     
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  17. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Merry Christmas everyone! :)
     
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  18. Manchester Nadeshiko

    NTV Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2017
    U.K.
    Merry Christmas to everybody.
    If you don't celebrate Christmas then Happy Tuesday to you.
     
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  19. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Goal of the year 2018



    Standings so far...(#4444)

    blissett, KAPIJXM, Lechus7, Manchester Nadreshiko, frohike, unepommekun, Grampus, And G, #nadeshikofan*, pierre bezukhov, Sirtel**

    *nominated 7 goals - last two went into honorable mentions
    **nominated 3 goals

    48 points Kumi Yokoyama vs Australia (AFC Cup) 1-0
    37 points Yui Hasegawa vs Korea DPR (Asian Games) 2-0
    24 points Mizuho Sakaguchi vs Australia (AFC Cup) 1-0
    21 points Mana Iwabuchi vs Netherlands (Algarve Cup) 2-6
    19 points Moeno Sakaguchi vs USA (ToN) 4-2
    8 points Yuika Sugasawa vs China (Asian Games) 1-0
    7 points Mana Iwabuchi vs China (AFC Cup) 0-1
    6 points Rika Masuya vs Brazil (ToN) 1-2
    6 points Aya Sameshima vs Ghana (Friendly) 7-1
    5 points Mina Tanaka vs USA (ToN) 1-1
    5 points Yuka Momiki vs Norway (Friendly) 4-0
    3 points Rika Masuya vs Vietnam (Asian Games) 5-0
    1 point Kumi Yokoyama vs Norway (Friendly) 1-0

    honorable mentions
    Emi Nakajima vs. China
    Mina Tanaka vs. Ghana

    last week open for votes...
     
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  20. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Sorry about the inconvenience with the extra two goals. I forgot how many we were supposed to select and there were too many... ;)
     
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  21. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    I had made some honorable mentions at the end of my voting too: you can check my original post, but I guess all of the goals that I had mentioned ended up being actually voted by someone else and making the regular chart. :coffee:

    Ok, people, this is an official plea! :laugh:

    I checked the last 4 months worth of posts on this thread (couldn't actually do that for the whole 2018 thread: we're at 178 pages right now, you know? But it seemed to me that September to December was a meaningful interval anyway) and I traced all of the people who posted here but didn't vote for Nadeshiko Goal of the Year yet. I am going to call them by name. Mind, the list includes plain regulars of the thread, semi-regulars or even people who just stopped by here to post some news but aren't in any way tightly tied to our group, so it's very possible that they don't care much about our voting.
    Anyway, without further ado, the missing names (in no particular order) are:

    @frideswide, @HS10Legend, @Titus Sol, @datschge, @zaku_II, @Dernhelm, @ManiacMunkie, @TowerofBabel, @Bop N Cool, @sbahnhof and @shlj.

    If any of you, guys, have some spare time in these Chritamas holydays and want to contribute to our little selection of Nadeshiko Japan Senior NT's Goal of the Year, feel free to post here before the deadline of midnight of 31st of December. :) (Or you carriage will turn into a pumpkin :giggle:).
     
  22. TowerofBabel

    TowerofBabel Member

    Oct 27, 2014
    Hello Good People,
    I have been called out to vote and I am lurking in the tall grass checking every so often. Not sure the procedure to this voting. Excuse my uninformed grasp of knowledge as I am not a regular but do we essentially watch the full video and post on this thread our vote for one of the goals as the top one for the year or are we to rank all the goals.
    To All my fellow posters here and All the Best in the New Year for health and happiness.
     
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  23. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    rules reminder

    Nadeshiko Japan Goal of the Year voting is open till end of the month

    Nominate five goals in order.



    example:
    1st Kumi Yokoyama vs. Vietnam (AFC Cup) 1-0
    2nd Aya Sameshima vs. Ghana (Friendly) 7-1
    3rd Yuka Momiki vs. Vietnam (Asian Games) 2-0
    4th Mina Tanaka vs. USA (ToN) 1-1
    5th Yuika Sugasawa vs. Iceland (Algarve Cup) 1-0

    ...or you can use time stamp from video.

    Points:
    1st - 7 points
    2nd - 4 points
    3rd - 3 points
    4th - 2 points
    5th - 1 point

    Tie-brakers:
    higher number of goals scored in match of importance:
    AFC Cup->AsianGames->ToN->AlgarveCup->Friendly

    Post it here or PM me.
     
  24. TowerofBabel

    TowerofBabel Member

    Oct 27, 2014
    Difficult but .... for me ....
    1st Moeno Sakaguchi vs USA TON
    2nd Mana Iwabuchi vs Netherlands Algarve Cup
    3rd Yuka Momiki vs Norway Friendly
    4th Yui Hasegawa vs DPR Korea Asian Games
    5th Kumi Yokohama vs Norway Friendly
     
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