Obama Failure Thread Part IV

Except that one is a slam on intelligence and the other is obvious racism

 

Well the R word is the new N word right?

Sure lots of right wing people are racist (and many left wingers probably) so many would use monkey stuff as racist jokes, but some may use them as just jokes, if it was ok to do it to Bush (for what ever reason) it is ok to do it to Obama (even if racist).

Racist speech is still free speech right.


Now another thing, the left could use evolution as an excuse since we are all apes (monkeys are more distant relatives) but the right does not believe in evolution so they can not use that as an excuse.

 

You kidding? Stewart is probably in 7th heaven right now. One of his complaints about the Obama Administration is how boring they have been. Stewart is a liberal, but first and foremost he is a comedian. If it is funny, he'll use it.

 

If it is dumb he will use it, for sure he does attack Dems when they do dumb shit, that is why I like the show, but as you say he is a Liberal, we all have our bias he has a Liberal bias (I do to on many topics). But you know that the Dems are doing something dumb when Steward (and Colbert) call them on it.

 

You typed that on a phone...right?

 

Holy crap. Laying Fast and Furious at the feet of Obama is pretty lame, even for you, Steamer. That program had been institutionalized under the Bush DoJ - certainly not the first colossal ******** up of GWB's administration.

But as others have said, Holder should have killed it as soon as he heard about it. So yeah, I criticize him for not driving a stake through the heart of a Bush program as soon as he heard about it.

 

But he first claimed he never heard of it, then months later he chained his mind (or found out that it did exist).

Now Obama claims he also did not know about it, but now claims executive privileged about hearing about it. The failure part is that video of him criticizing Bush for using executive privilege for the same type of thing.

Then again that is usual for all candidates (both parties) saying one thing before becoming a president, then doing something else when they are in the presidential chair. Reality slaps them in the face.

 

You are aware that the documents that are being blocked are only from the period after the Justice Dept official said he hadn't heard of it and when Holder came clean about it, right?

 

So you would call it a witch hunt or a fishing expedition?

 

Considering Issa has been launching investigation after investigation trying to get after the adminitstration...

 

To be fair, investigations are what the House Oversight Committee does.

 

Usually they have merit... This is the first one that does. The rest have been quite frivilous and/or politically motivated.

 

Judging from the comments the Obama Bridal Registry is a huge success:

http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/the-obama-event-registry#comments

 

Reply to Yoss? No, you mean reply to Media Matters. Since we are debating via proxies I’ll let Bill Whittle blow Media Matters out of the water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UFIpoL3jrfo

“Fast & Furious” wasn’t a botched operation, it was highly successful. Unfortunately it claimed 2 US agents.

 

Here's something you and Yoss might find interesting:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-20039031.html

And please note the dateline.

 

If you initiate a gun-swap scheme and it results in the deaths of two of your own agents, it's not successful, much less "highly" successful.

 

Most people would agree, but apparently not some in the ATF and the Justice Dept. So why is it a witchhunt to try and hold someone accountable?

 

All you have to say is 'oh dear'?

You do realize that Holder had to admit that operation “Fast & Furious” was not operation “Wide Receiver" while under oath, don't you? That lie was put to bed a long time ago.

 

I'm not disagreeing -- government has never been good at admitting they ********ed up.

I heard a guy from the Partnership for Public Service speak recently, and he was discussing some of the differences between working for the government and working for the private sector. He used Apple as the private sector example, and reminded everyone of the iPhone antenna debacle from a couple of years ago. Things were rough for Apple for a couple of weeks, but they fixed the problem, and people went on with their lives, buying up a shitload of iPhones since then. He noted that if the government had created a phone with the same problems, we'd still be hearing about it. It would still be in papers, there'd be congressional inquiries, etc.

It's not a perfect analogy, but what if in fact ATF had un********ed whatever led to the failure of F&F last year? My guess is the GOP-led House would still be holding hearings. Even if Holder had gone to Congress and laid everything on the table, it wouldn't have been enough. They'd still want his head.

After looking at all the shit previous AG's have had to go through -- regardless of party -- why in the hell would anyone want that job?