(NQR) The USMNT Thread [R]

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  1. proud smurf

    proud smurf Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Uranus
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looks to me that, we need a thread for our USMNT.

    There are so many subjets to be discussed, from Narcissus place and preformance in the Nats, to the coaching position,that I think still open.(don't forget "interim" coach B. Bradley).

    Last but not least: Why when the Nats played at the south of the country(from South Cal to TX) against any hispanic team or country.They (the Nats)
    get the feeling that,are playing as visitors and not at home?
    What can be done?....what should be done?

    GO USA !!!:cool:
     
  2. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    Well, I could say that all of these topics are frequently, exhaustively, and minutely discussed in the "US Men, News and Analysis" board, but the folks who hang out there can be rather rude and dismissive at times, so I don't have a problem with a thread here.

    In terms of the "away-home-game" phenomenon, I doubt there is anything, short of playing all home games in Minnesota or Idaho that can be done about that. I think it's simply a fact of life that when the United States appropriated the Northern half of Mexico in the mid 19th Century we sort of created this problem for ourselves. Personally, I think it probably makes the Nats tougher to play against at away games than they would otherwise be, so it's a mixed curse.
     
  3. FUAEG

    FUAEG Member+

    Oct 18, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    We could go to the games. Beats yelling at the TV. Alas tonight I'm with the TV.
     
  4. bigdumbgod

    bigdumbgod Member+

    Jun 25, 2005
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    Yelling at the TV. 63,000+ yelling back at me! Seems, especially since it's an indoor stadium, there's plenty of noise coming from plenty of fans of both sides. Time for a beer. F Blanco!!!
     
  5. gilmoreaz

    gilmoreaz Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Peoria, Arizona
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    To my fellow Earthquake breatheren,

    Tonight was amazing!!! Many of you know that I am a SJ transplant and have lived in Phoenix for 16 years now... This was the first time we have had an event like tonight here and man was it awesome! My kids won't sleep tonight, nor will I!

    Yes, it was pro Mexico, however the US was well represented in the stands as well.

    I have been trying to relate my days growing up in SJ with soccer matches like tonight and no one here got it. Not any more!

    Here's to soccer finally growing in Phoenix...
    Here's to San Jose getting the Quakes back asap
    Here's to Phoenix getting an MLS team and creating great rivalry...
    Here's to Mexico being scoreless on US soil this decade!;)
     
  6. UrawaRed

    UrawaRed New Member

    Dec 19, 2000
    Kiyose, Tokyo
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Video highlights anywhere?
     
  7. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better than that, anyone have a DVD-R of the match they can send to me? ESPN Int'l didn't show the game here -- they opted for Germany v Switzerland and England v Spain instead -- and all I got was very brief highlights on SportsCenter tonight.
     
  8. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    And yes... two-nil, it never gets old!! :D
     
  9. proud smurf

    proud smurf Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Uranus
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread

    I just found this article in ussoccer.com




    Articles








    Men's National Team

    USA's 2-0 Victory Against Mexico Hits New Rating Highs for Soccer




    ESPN2 & Univision Each See Impressive Numbers and Records Set
    as USA Improves Home Record Against Mexico to 7-0-1 Since 2000

    CHICAGO (Feb. 9, 2007) - Televised soccer hit new rating highs on Wednesday night for the broadcast of the U.S. National Team's 2-0 victory over Mexico on ESPN2 and Univision from University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, Ariz. For U.S. Soccer, the victory on the field continued the team's dominance of Mexico, but also highlighted the incredible gains the sport is making elsewhere.

    ESPN2's broadcast was the most-watched U.S. game in the team's history, outside of the World Cup and World Cup qualifiers. The network earned a 0.7 household rating, which translates to 1.1 million viewers and comes on the heels of the network’s impressive 2006 World Cup ratings. Even more impressively, the game averaged a 1.0 rating during the final 15 minutes as the USA iced the victory.

    On Univision, the match also set records with more than 6 million total viewers. The U.S. victory was the No. 2 most-watched Spanish-language sports cast in history, beating every Super Bowl among Hispanic Adults 18-49, Men 18-49 and Total Viewers.

    For the entire night, Univision was the second largest broadcast network among all Teens 12-17 with 573,000 viewers (beating ABC, CBS, NBC, CW), the third largest broadcast network among all Adults 18-34 with 2,074,000 viewers (beating CBS, NBC, CW), the fourth largest broadcast network among all Adults 18-49 with 3,617,000 viewers (beating NBC, CW) and the fifth largest broadcast network among all Persons 2+ with 5,931,000 viewers (beating CW).

    In Los Angeles, the entertainment capital of the world, nearly 1.2 million viewers watched KMEX-TV’s broadcast of the USA's shutout win to make it the highest-rated program of the night beating out “American Idol,” “Lost” and “CSI: NY.” Additionally, the U.S. victory was the No. 1 ranked program in its time period among Men 18-49 in San Francisco and Dallas, and No. 2 in New York and Chicago (again, against competition like "American Idol," "Lost" and "CSI: NY").

    The victory for the USA continued the team’s dominance of Mexico this decade. In nine games played outside of Mexico since the year 2000, the USA is 8-0-1 with an incredible nine consecutive shutouts. That total includes the USA’s 2-0 victory against Mexico in the second round of the 2002 FIFA World Cup in Korea/Japan.

    On Wednesday night, in front of a sold out crowd of 62,462 fans, the USA defeated Mexico 2-0 behind goals from Jimmy Conrad and Landon Donovan.





    ussoccer.com is the official website of U.S. Soccer, the governing body of soccer in the United States
     
  10. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    Re: (NQR) The USMNT Thread



    That article likely describes some of the definitive reasons why the US plays these games in places along the southwest border. Six months from now, when advertisers are being sought, one of the things that will matter most will be the ratings of past televised games. While the demographic of the viewers is probably not ideal (not a slam of Mexican viewership, just a comment about which potential sponsors might be interested) , the good ratings (a relative desription) will help put future games (not necessarily just against Mexico) on national TV. It's about the money and large numbers of viewers equals money.
     
  11. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really enjoyed that game!

    As far as the "home field advantage" thing goes, I'm not concerned for friendlies. For WCQ's, I want the games in Columbus or Birmingham or Anchorage.

    sjo is right that we need higher ratings and better attendance in order to get better coverage and better TV. It's going to get harder and harder for ESPN/ABC and their advertisers to pretend that soccer isn't a major sport in this country.

    GO USA!!!
    QUAKES FOREVER!!

    - Mark
     
  12. DotMPP

    DotMPP Two shades of blue

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jun 29, 2004
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except we about about 20 airings of Dick's Sporting Goods giving us the Baseball "It starts all over again next year" thing.

    Who're they selling to for a US/Mexico soccer match? The Mexican fans?
     
  13. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is more of "The Sports Establishment" failing to recognize that Soccer is now big time in the USA. Like any large organization, "Dick's Sporting Goods" is not a monolithic entity. Notice that they paid for the naming rights to the Crapids stadium. Notice that they bought advertising during the USA vs. Mexico match. Some of their executives understand that soccer is important. But some of them still don't get it.

    Also, there are plenty of folks who still think that being a sports fan means being a fan of all sports. That's no longer the case. The "sports" market is highly fractured in this country. People have a lot of entertainment options. Sports fans have a greater tendancy to be fans of just one sport rather than many.

    Whatever. Our country is making progress. Our US Men's Team is improving. Our soccer audience is growing. MLS has a better TV contract. More companies are investing in MLS and USL. I know that we are often frustrated by TV ads and the crap we see in the newspapers, but we're still making progress.

    GO USA!!!
    QUAKES FOREVER!!

    - Mark
     
  14. billward

    billward Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    El Cerrito, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're selling to ESPN2 viewers, who tend to be fans of multiple sports. That's one of the key demographics MLS/SUM/MNT is going after. The soccer-only fans are either already watching, or never will (Eurosnobs), and there aren't that many of us anyway. But the baseball fans, football fans, etc. are a big untapped market that MLS needs to be truly Major League.

    And besides, though Dick's Sporting Goods has invested a certain amount in advertising time for the MNT game, and naming rights for Colorado's stadium, they would need to pay their ad production company big buck$ to produce a new version of the ad targeted at soccer, and they'd only be able to use it in a limited number of slots.

    I think anything that conveys the message that it's OK to like both soccer and baseball is a good thing for the future of soccer in this country.
     
  15. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    How sober and reasonable of you. Where's the passion dude?! ;)

    Good post.

    QUAKES FOREVER!!

    - Mark
     
  16. proud smurf

    proud smurf Member

    Jul 30, 2005
    Uranus
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just found this article....

    http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6572014


    I wonder... when the "Interim Coach" will be remove for an official coach title?

    Does Sunil still "shopping" around?

    GO QUAKES!!!

    LA LUCHA CONTINUA !!:cool:

    GO U.S.A !!
     
  17. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Once again, no ESPN Int'l coverage of any sort, live or tape-delayed, for the two USA matches next week.

    Bugger. :mad:
     
  18. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll check the guide and see if it's being broadcast here. What with "March Madness" who knows.
     
  19. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The USSF's site has both games as being live on ESPN2.

    Which I think is a travesty that ESPN's international networks -- namely the one broadcasting to Australia and New Zealand -- can take the feed from that, and won't.
     
  20. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right. They are both broadcast; on ESPN2. And you're also right that it's a travesty that they don't show them in Oz.
     
  21. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd like to see if there are other ESPN Int'l channels that do or do not show the two games next week, before we start singling out the Australian and New Zealand marketplace, for not showing them.

    With your connections in Japan, do you know if the ESPN Int'l channel over there is showing them? Just as a "for instance" here...

    And while I'm at it, if anyone could send me a copy of a DVD of each match, that would be much appreciated. Perhaps a trade of some sort can be worked out, even... after all, the AFL season is fast approaching here! :)
     
  22. NoRightFoot

    NoRightFoot Member

    May 18, 2006
    Melbourne, at times.
    Club:
    Malmo FF
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    It most certainly is Bill and on top of that time to give the USMNT a break for a while. We're all in Australia hoping the best for the US in the Copa but the AFL does take the higher ground, at least at the moment. :) ;)
     
  23. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On Australian shores, anyway. ;)

    And on that note, there's no coverage of either the Copa America nor the CONCACAF Gold Cup here, for that matter. SBS (the network that televised the last World Cup over here) might mention the Copa America in passing, but I'm afraid they'll do their best to pass over any mention of the USMNT, if not discredit Bob Bradley's team completely.

    In any event, I might have to ask for DVD's of the Gold Cup and Copa America matches involving the USA, in due time.

    And no, the USMNT never takes a break from our interests. :)
     
  24. NoRightFoot

    NoRightFoot Member

    May 18, 2006
    Melbourne, at times.
    Club:
    Malmo FF
    Nat'l Team:
    Australia
    Do you have foxtel? I would've thought some of the fox sports channels would've had some copa coverage especially the digitall version. I'll see what I can do
     
  25. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mate, I couldn't live without my Foxtel -- three Fox Sports channels, and all, besides the ESPN Int'l channel. :)

    But I'll tell you what... if there was a market screaming out for an overseas ESPN2 channel, it would be sporting-mad Melbourne, that's for sure.

    I'm not sure if there would be that type of info published as of yet on their site, but if you can find out, more power to you...

    I would certainly appreciate it.
     

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